Quote:I've posted plenty of absolute facts.
zero doubts about that ..
Quote:My opinions on management are felt by the majority.
not quite as cut and dried imo per founder there are 1000s of investors .. but
again as we've done this dance so many times b4 .. what can retail do in your
opinion in regards to (presumably) replacing mgmt? presuming that is what
this is about?
specifics recognizing what retail can do .. and what mgmt can do in return to those actions
Quote:I've been inside that plant and have seen more than most on this board, including yourself.
many have been inside the plant .. including some rather recently .. not sure
who the *yourself* is directed at .. but some of us (clearly not all) have no issues
going to local sources for *recent* rumors/rumours .. but as *I* have always noted
they are just that until filed via an 8K .. and as frustrating as it appears .. P2O still survives
and remains compliant
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The vendor stuck with the kilns and towers, along with the bill, is right around the corner.
yep and this topic has also been discussed numerous times in this venue ..
it is a disgrace that P2O's current mgmt hasn't made an attempt to work out
payment arrangements on them .. as *I* and other P2O investors have noted
to you previously every time this topic is raised ..
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Facts represent the truth. And the truth hurts.
apparently only to some .. the reality is the company has been a target since 2009
do you agree?
do you recognize why an upside down *target* would then
have its PPS relentlessly compressed? .. when it appeared that prior *mgmt*
was being replaced with someone *favored* then by P2O's founder?
you will find no argument from me that there are things I would have handled
differently than current mgmt has .. this too has been articulated numerous
times every time topic is raised ..
but you also seem to think retail investors control anything beyond the basics
that have been reiterated to you every time this dance is done
they don't ..
activist investors (and I consider myself one) always present suggestions ..
email consistently .. and try to work closely with others who feel the same
there are numerous options mgmt can undertake .. if so inclined .. but the only
folks who have a clue about what mgmt's *current* intent is .. is RH .. possibly RB
some of us .. have long since divorced our emotions from the PPS .. some actual
large (share wise) P2O investors .. (not many I grant you) intend to double or
triple their shares *if* PTOI gets below X pps .. because some folks feel that
6 or so actual investors holding 4M to 6M per .. may have an impact in the future
in regards to mgmt .. imo it's hard to say .. but i'm certainly not going to comment
on others' financial choices with respect to their investment .. every investor in P2O is an adult ..
*most* .. I won't presume all .. have long since made their choice .. it's exactly
why PTOI (stock) has had less and less YOY (YTD) volume since 2013
2017's YTD Volume = 8,824,220 (thru first 8 months)
http://otce.finra.org/MonthlyShareVolume
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I also find it telling that acknowledging the PPS compression skirts facts or various versions of the truth ..
if anything it's remarkable what has been shown since 2010 .. and the irony there is
personal awareness of the what would be undertaken and by whom (2010/2011/2012/2013)
wasn't even a blip on the radar beyond recognizing *patterns* .. crews' working
since 2009 (both sides) and some always fishing for info to trade
of course the only folks making money on PTOI for years now .. are those
aligned with the shorts .. since the EO 2013 .. PTOI has been held (for the
most part) sub 10c .. the last *round* of volume was Jan 2014 .. (when PTOI
was reset to 6c) .. for the most part of the last 3 years .. PTOI has been held
sub 5c ..
even then .. there are far easier stocks out there (liquidity wise) to trade than PTOI
so what in your opinion should folks do? .. sell their PTOI *shares* as some *others* have chimed in here?
btw this is the ? i get asked most by many P2O investors who *read here* but
won't post as to what it is being asked .. or is it just venting to vent ..
reasonable ?s imo based on the many times this discussion has been held *here*
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