no one here or elsewhere ever said it (manipulation) was the only problem ..
but without a doubt it has contributed to P2O's ability to execute on some levels
not every level .. we all know that there are aspects that mgmt can undertake
that they themselves control .. which clearly should be done .. as has been
discussed many times since March 2016's update
and if *2* investors have been selling per you .. that is their business .. no one here
has ever indicated that no actual P2O investor won't sell .. i know for a fact
that some have sold because they've been kind enough to share their time stamps with me over the past few years
the key is to see what shows in alignment with those time stamps ..
or understand why the PRIMARY and SECONDARY MMs' *actively reporting*
would align 99.99% (36.61% for the month of June)
bottom line is the company's founder remains invested CONtrary to what gets
posted *consistently* via the vehicle of choice .. and is never too far away ..
neither are others ..
the week that *changes* .. PTOI will do *volume* of significance .. imo those
actual P2O investors who wanted out were gone by either the EO Jan 2014 ..
when NR took PTOI from 10c to 6c .. or more tellingly when London Calling
came into play *again* in early October to *bury* the ACC Executive Summary
with *volume* of the cert kind that rivaled but didn't equal Jan 2012's *efforts*
and *from memory* .. that 6c reset from Jan 2014 went to 5c in October 2014
the knives against this company have been in play since 2009 .. and clearly
*visible* to anyone by 2010 ..
damage done YOY doesn't clean/clear itself up without a combination of vision
.. the ability to articulate that vision to actual investors and potential buyers
and of course the ability to execute the first sale
what is telling is that the vision remains the founder's ... the tech which is disruptive
has been independently validated and permitted in NYS .. and with RC in the
mix .. who much to trolls' angst .. has a proven history of sourcing investors
and installing a competitor's product .. (i.e. the salesman to potential
investors) makes this still an OTC *survivor* .. very much in play .. until it isn't
i noted months ago when it was clear that 2017's *volume* was tracking 2009's
that since NR has taken PTOI to this level and clearly wants it lower .. 5c to first
3c and now sub 2c .. why fight (via legit bid support) them .. let them do what
they do best .. because at this level it's not going to change any outcome based on
the PPS *price* .. i can speak for a core group of approx 10 P2O investors who
have independently provided consistent bid support for months on end .. and
of those 10 .. more than half stopped providing bid support a few months ago
.. which is obvious based on the tape of *trades* done ..
right now this group is watching to see how the Q is *handled* .. if the set up
continues to be the same .. that material event (which all recognize will most
likely contain nothing new) may well be utilized to reset the 52 week low yet
again ..
contrary to what gets posted here .. there are a core group *here* who have
no issues buying PTOI below 1c
as a matter of fact i spoke with a group this past weekend (representing 20)
who provided their caveats continue to met .. are considering buying enough
to have to *report* % wise .. suspect many would already consider them to be
large investors (not just money wise but share wise) today ..
4kids
but without a doubt it has contributed to P2O's ability to execute on some levels
not every level .. we all know that there are aspects that mgmt can undertake
that they themselves control .. which clearly should be done .. as has been
discussed many times since March 2016's update
and if *2* investors have been selling per you .. that is their business .. no one here
has ever indicated that no actual P2O investor won't sell .. i know for a fact
that some have sold because they've been kind enough to share their time stamps with me over the past few years
the key is to see what shows in alignment with those time stamps ..
or understand why the PRIMARY and SECONDARY MMs' *actively reporting*
would align 99.99% (36.61% for the month of June)
bottom line is the company's founder remains invested CONtrary to what gets
posted *consistently* via the vehicle of choice .. and is never too far away ..
neither are others ..
the week that *changes* .. PTOI will do *volume* of significance .. imo those
actual P2O investors who wanted out were gone by either the EO Jan 2014 ..
when NR took PTOI from 10c to 6c .. or more tellingly when London Calling
came into play *again* in early October to *bury* the ACC Executive Summary
with *volume* of the cert kind that rivaled but didn't equal Jan 2012's *efforts*
and *from memory* .. that 6c reset from Jan 2014 went to 5c in October 2014
the knives against this company have been in play since 2009 .. and clearly
*visible* to anyone by 2010 ..
damage done YOY doesn't clean/clear itself up without a combination of vision
.. the ability to articulate that vision to actual investors and potential buyers
and of course the ability to execute the first sale
what is telling is that the vision remains the founder's ... the tech which is disruptive
has been independently validated and permitted in NYS .. and with RC in the
mix .. who much to trolls' angst .. has a proven history of sourcing investors
and installing a competitor's product .. (i.e. the salesman to potential
investors) makes this still an OTC *survivor* .. very much in play .. until it isn't
i noted months ago when it was clear that 2017's *volume* was tracking 2009's
that since NR has taken PTOI to this level and clearly wants it lower .. 5c to first
3c and now sub 2c .. why fight (via legit bid support) them .. let them do what
they do best .. because at this level it's not going to change any outcome based on
the PPS *price* .. i can speak for a core group of approx 10 P2O investors who
have independently provided consistent bid support for months on end .. and
of those 10 .. more than half stopped providing bid support a few months ago
.. which is obvious based on the tape of *trades* done ..
right now this group is watching to see how the Q is *handled* .. if the set up
continues to be the same .. that material event (which all recognize will most
likely contain nothing new) may well be utilized to reset the 52 week low yet
again ..
contrary to what gets posted here .. there are a core group *here* who have
no issues buying PTOI below 1c
as a matter of fact i spoke with a group this past weekend (representing 20)
who provided their caveats continue to met .. are considering buying enough
to have to *report* % wise .. suspect many would already consider them to be
large investors (not just money wise but share wise) today ..
4kids
Quote:Nonsense. I know of two longs who post here who have been selling stock regularly, even at these levels.
People are dumping the stock and have been for years.
It is not heavily manipulated. That is the least of this companies problems.
Heddle cannot sell a machine. It's been four yrs.
My God, very very few longs believe that people manipulating Ptoi is the problem.
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