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very kind of you to say that was a detailed response .. it was actually a cliff notes response i posted last night

the story (and back story cause the overlapping crews working ihub are indeed
like an octopus with many tentacles) for that matter requires more time than
available this weekend .. which is why i indicated i'd get to it early this week
best rest assured most here *who read there* will know the players due to their
*interest* on the vehicle of choice for OTC stock manipulation

story starts in 2009 .. that said i hope this doesn't come as a surprise to you but NR
always works cycles of money .. those cycles take the PPS UP and then back down

this can be done with ease provided that folks (retail) are conditioned to trade (not invest)
because what happens when when retail actually invests is *eventually* NR
gets upside down on their cycles of money .. which is why it was so non surprising
to those of us who have seen these patterns b4 .. that the then CTIX .. would be
about to blow wide open in the summer of 2015 .. because what NR *needed*
was one massive shake out of actual CTIX shares ..

and we all know what happened from that point to now

anyhow .. as i've always noted this data has always threatened a segment .. it's
also ironic way back when (2008 give or take) the *embedded* crews' *there*
claimed daily that there was no such thing as *shorting* (forget abusive) on any
OTC stock .. i kid you not .. of course back then certain of these crews had the
clout that if they *posted* on any SMB that was upside DOWN .. odds are
*retail* would sell first and ask ?s later

times have certainly changed over the last few years as more and more skeletons come to light .. and as retail investors' educate themselves .. but mostly imo it's those aware OTC mgmt teams who recognize exactly what has been done and are willing to fight back and with the SEC
it's also a progress that is glacial .. but hey T+2 in 2017 .. sure beats T +3

anyhow back to my family .. enjoy what remains of your evening

4kids

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I appreciate the detailed response. If manipulators were in control from the beginning, they would never allow the stock to run to ~$5. Some would say they were forced to cover on the way up. If that was the case, they would've lost millions of dollars. Why lose that much money if they never have to cover (Alan's claim, not mine)?

I'll ask FINRA whether the short volume data from 2010-2011 are still available. That was when the stock was very thinly traded and I was accounted for the whole day's volume sometimes. I still have those shares from 6-7 years ago so I know when I bought them. If the file shows 100% were short volume on the day I bought 100% of the shares, then I have another proof that interpreting it as short sales is misleading.

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