Then post the 'proof' you lying sack of shit! Meanwhile ponder the following.
The real draft dodger is the mf you voted for. He was exactly the right age in '65 when the draft calls rose to 25K/mo and more.
Like Cheney Trump 'had other thing to do'. Fuck Cheny, Fuck Trump and Fuck you! Bone spurs my ass!
The real draft dodger is the mf you voted for. He was exactly the right age in '65 when the draft calls rose to 25K/mo and more.
Like Cheney Trump 'had other thing to do'. Fuck Cheny, Fuck Trump and Fuck you! Bone spurs my ass!
Quote:Until recently, the only detail on record about that shift was it was medically related. After his comments about McCain, Trump said it had to do with bone spurs in his heels. Trump reportedly was active in college sports, playing baseball, tennis and squash.
"Sarge, I'm only eighteen, I got a ruptured spleen
And I always carry a purse.
I got eyes like a bat, and my feet are flat, and my asthma's getting worse.
Quote:Was Trump a 'draft dodger'?
www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2015/jul/21/was-trump-draft-dodger/
By Jon Greenberg on Tuesday, July 21st, 2015 at 4:01 p.m.
"The term ‘draft dodging’ is a characterization that does not reflect any legal category, but rather somebody's view of the assiduousness and honesty with which a draft registrant seeks to avoid service," Tigar told us. "Many people who might have sought exemption or deferment from the draft decided to volunteer. Many others sought ways around participation in the military conflict."
During the war, the draft dodging term was used loosely. An Associated Press headline from 1967 said "LBJ hopes to stop draft dodging." The article was about dropping student deferments for men in graduate school.
The loose meaning of draft dodging continued into the 21st century. A 2008 article on the Israeli government’s effort to shut down websites that suggest ways for young people to legally avoid conscription had the headline "Websites on draft dodging to be probed."
That said, there are times when draft dodging means that someone broke the law. A clear example is fleeing to Canada. Hundreds of men did so, which prompted President Jimmy Carter to issue a blanket pardon for them and others who took extreme steps to avoid participating in the Vietnam War.
But Kuby used the term more casually. Effectively, he was saying he thinks Trump was trying to avoid the draft. The only way to prove Kuby wrong would be to know Trump’s motivations at the time. That is not checkable and Kuby’s claim is more a moral judgment than a statement of fact.
Given that we can’t determine Trump’s intent. All we can do is look at the record.
Thanks to a 2011 Freedom of Information Act request by the website TheSmokingGun.com, Trump’s Selective Service record is available to anyone.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/...ft-dodger/
The 2-S classifications are Trump’s student deferments. The first two covered his time at Fordham University in the Bronx, and the second two allowed him to stay in school when he transferred to study business at the University of Pennsylvania.
At the time, as Tigar wrote in his 1969 article, any college student who asked could get a student deferment. When he graduated in 1968, Trump’s classification shifted to 1-A, or "available for service."
Had that stood, Trump would have been drafted.
But Trump had a physical exam in September 1968. He had taken one less than two years earlier that did not disqualify him for service as we can tell from his 1-A classification in July 1968. However, his second physical was followed in October with a new classification, 1-Y. That designation put him near the bottom of any call-up list. It meant he would only be drafted if there were a national emergency.
Until recently, the only detail on record about that shift was it was medically related. After his comments about McCain, Trump said it had to do with bone spurs in his heels. Trump reportedly was active in college sports, playing baseball, tennis and squash.
More on the medical deferment
Trump failed to mention his medical deferment when he told ABC News on July 19, 2015, that he was never drafted because the draft lottery went into effect and his birthday came with a high number.
"If I would have gotten a low number, I would have been drafted. I would have proudly served," he said. "But I got a number, I think it was 356. That’s right at the very end. And they didn't get -- I don’t believe -- past even 300, so I was -- I was not chosen because of the fact that I had a very high lottery number."
Late in 1969, the nation changed the selective service law to pick people through a random selection of birth dates. The very first drawing was on Dec. 1, 1969.
As TheSmokingGun.com website pointed out, the draft lottery came two months after Trump received his 1-Y classification. Essentially, even if Trump’s birthday, June 14, had been pulled first, he would not have been called to serve.
Trump’s memory served him well on one point. His number was indeed 356.
No law broken
Kuby backed up his use of the draft dodger term with a musical reference. Phil Ochs was a Vietnam era protest singer who wrote The Draft Dodger Rag in 1965. The lyrics imagine a young man at the Selective Service office.
"Sarge, I'm only eighteen, I got a ruptured spleen
And I always carry a purse.
I got eyes like a bat, and my feet are flat, and my asthma's getting worse.
Yes, think of my career, my sweetheart dear, and my poor old invalid aunt
Besides, I ain't no fool, I'm a-goin' to school,
And I'm working in a DEE-fense plant
And to show the supplicant’s true intent, the song ends this way:
So I wish you well, Sarge, give 'em Hell!
Kill me a thousand or so.
And if you ever get a war without blood and gore,
I'll be the first to go.
To the best of our knowledge, no one has charged Trump with violating the Selective Service law. His student deferments were routine. And unless someone has new information, there is no legal issue with his medical deferment.
Trump had the opportunity to volunteer and the record speaks for itself that he did not.
