I used that argument on them to no avail. For them

I used that argument on them to no avail.  For them, it's all about long standing CE's.  I must admit they are very cautious with clients when we first begin frequent trading, especially penny stocks.

There's no denying that a CE-less CWRN is a healthier entity... JMO.  The physical side is stupendous, so that's the current tradeoff.