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A shout out and some facts to all of the righties

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Posted On: 09/20/2016 10:44:07 PM
Posted By: Bhawks
A shout out and some facts to all of the righties in the house!

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The State of the Union address

We have cut 'our deficits by almost three-quarters,' Obama says in State of the Union

By Louis Jacobson on Tuesday, January 12th, 2016 at 10:39 p.m

Obama: Anyone saying America’s economy is in decline "is peddling fiction"

Reuters

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...ama-state/

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U.S. President Obama touted his economic record in final State of the Union saying, "Anyone claiming that America's economy is in decline is peddling fiction."


A year ago, President Barack Obama said during his 2015 State of the Union address that the United States has seen "our deficits cut by two-thirds" during his tenure. We rated that claim Mostly True. During his 2016 State of the Union address, Obama raised the bar.

After citing some of his administration’s economic accomplishments, he said, "We’ve done all this while cutting our deficits by almost three-quarters."

Has the deficit-reduction expanded during the past year? We took a closer look.

Let’s start with an important reminder: The deficit is not the same as the debt.

A country’s deficit is the difference between what the government collects in revenues and spends in one year. The national debt, by contrast, is the accumulation of all annual deficits minus any annual surpluses.

When we checked Obama’s assertion a year ago, he compared his first budget year in office -- 2009 -- to 2014, using the deficit as a percentage of gross domestic product, or GDP. Economists consider this a valid way to measure the size of the deficit -- in fact, for most purposes, it’s the best way, since it factors in the economy’s change over time.

Here’s the recent history of the deficit as a percentage of GDP. The years 2009 through 2014 come from historical data maintained by the Office of Management and Budget. The 2015 figure is the most recent estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, released in August 2016

Fiscal year

Deficit as a percentage of GDP

2009

9.8


2010

8.7


2011

8.5


2012

6.8


2013

4.1


2014

2.8


2015

2.4


According to this data, the deficit as a percentage of GDP has fallen by 76 percent -- almost exactly what Obama said.

If you use dollars rather than percentage of GDP, the decline is a bit smaller but still pretty close -- 70 percent.

That said, experts have told us that while Obama's math may be correct, it's missing some important caveats.

First, it's important to note that the deficit swelled in 2009 partly because of the massive stimulus program to jumpstart the cratering economy. This temporarily elevated level set the stage for the unusually precipitous decline.

"This is not to say that that the large deficit was his fault, but if one used the 2008 deficit as a frame of reference, the comparison would be quite different," Alan Auerbach, University of California Berkeley professor of economics and law, told us a year ago.

Also, some economists we’ve consulted pointed out that the 2009 fiscal year was Obama’s first year in office, and so not necessarily a good starting point since he had little control over the spending in that year.

There's another issue. Princeton University economics professor Harvey Rosen told us the more important question is whether Obama has put the government on a path that will keep deficits stable.

"And the answer is no," Rosen said, because entitlement programs, such as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, have not had substantial reform.

The long-term forecast for the deficit illustrates this point. Absent substantial reform, the Congressional Budget Office expects a few more years of short-term deficit decreases followed by bigger shortfalls in 10 and 20 years.

The most recent projections show deficits as a percentage of GDP remaining lower than today’s level through 2018, then beginning an upward curve. Between 2019 and 2022, the deficit is set to rise from 2.8 percent of GDP to 3.7 percent of GDP. It is not projected to fall below 3.4 percent through 2025.

Finally, presidents don’t move the economy on their own (the economy can be affected for good or ill by global trends and technological change) and must cooperate with Congress when steering fiscal policy.

Our ruling

Obama said we have cut "our deficits by almost three-quarters."

The numbers check out if you start with fiscal year 2009, his first year in office. But it’s worth remembering that 2009 had a historically high deficit, and that projections show the deficit increasing again in just a couple years.

We rate the claim Mostly True.



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