sorry that old chestnut .. you only *lose* when you sell is

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sorry that old chestnut .. you only *lose* when you sell is 100% *factually accurate*

but what is really interesting .. is the fact of denigrating 3 other P2O investors
who reported privately via PM or phone calls to me .. activity at the plant (NF)

like many P2O investors .. they rarely post and had (and still have) no reason
to *make up* anything ..


did you ever consider that a long's (visual) drive by @ 10AM wouldn't be the same
as your drive by hours later?

it is no secret when the plant was shut down (Dec 2013) .. it's no secret
when Flagship (3) came on line (summer 2013) and it's no secret when
interested parties *observed* aspects of 3's operations (Q 3/4 2013) ..
that were then publicly disseminated (2014 .. but interestingly not by P2O's current mgmt) .

my first foray into OTC land was *lucky* (ticker for the old force protection
that would in due course be acquired by GD) .. i was *lucky* because
i was clueless about OTC manipulation .. back then i believed in the system
and the SEC .. i know better now .. my second venture into OTC land
taught me a valuable lesson about just how easy it was for coordinated FILTH
to destroy a totally legit fully filing (compliant) company ..

it's very easy to whine .. to blame others and to spew hate .. especially on
anonymous SMBs ..

personally i have always been solution oriented and i wanted
to learn how .. (the why was the easy part .. there are crews on ihub who
will sell their souls for a 10c orchestrated run on an OTC stock) .. but hopefully
all here know that


common sense dictates one never invest more than they can afford to lose
common sense dictates diversification .. my personal hedge on P2O/PTOI
still is *GEVO* .. another heavily targeted stock and company .. the difference
in 2016 vs 2009 for me is i will now trade a % of my core holding .. which is
why when i saw *entity* take GEVO *UP* back in June .. i had no doubts my
2 GTCs would hit .. b4 *entities* reset GEVO back down .. which they did

i sold and re-bought and will do so again as CEs' CONtinue to orchestrate


PTOI has not had an illegally manipulated *take up* since Jan 2013 ..
that is 3 years and 9 months and counting .. if P2O delivers on their tech's
first sale .. PTOI will have volume that will allow anyone who wants out to
exit .. more than likely above their CB (cost basis) .. which is the only *option*
CEs' currently have with P2O's ability to execute

there are no guarantees in life .. but as i've noted .. RH isn't funding P2O for the fun of it

the fact is LL's 100,000 infused allows *doors open to EOY* .. if 900,000
additional is infused .. it allows doors open well into 2017 *imo*

what seems to elude *some* .. is that 3 doesn't have to be *operational*
for P2O to sell founder's disruptive tech .. there are many with *interest*
fully cognizant of P2O's tech from 2013 (and odds are even earlier)

as has also been noted .. NF doesn't need to remain as HQ .. it could be sold
with a JV with one or two others .. one thought i expect was discussed
was splitting out the country .. for 2 locations .. perhaps 4 staying in NYS
and 5 heading to the south land ..

i keep noting that RH has lots of options .. but only *he* knows what he is doing

communication isn't his strong suit .. which is totally understandable based on
the shit that has stalked every person who won't post negatively about P2O

lastly .. another early lesson in high risk investments .. is to always separate
out the company from the stock

what JB did (to this day) still stuns .. in his advancement of P2O from 2009
to 2012/2013 .. JB will always be a success regardless of how *some*
tried to destroy him/his tech/and P2O

i always presumed KR was *certain* whales handpicked *CEO* for obvious
reasons and all that *that* entailed

TB .. was beyond *revealing* .. and his actions speak for themselves
both what is *known* via filings and those pesky *rumors* embedded
about the recycling facility .. of which *some* are more acquainted than others

RH .. was installed as CEO in mid August 2013 .. on 9.30.13 .. when his $MILLIONS
were infused .. the PPS on PTOI was 35c ..

P2O is the only company on the OTC .. i'm familiar with .. that would have
their PPS *reset* from 35c to 10c .. 9.30.13 to 12.31.13 .. after those $MILLIONS
were infused


that is stock manipulation 101

and i have no doubts it would have *succeeded* in parting actual P2O investors
except for 2 things ..

founders disruptive tech .. and those early/original investors' belief in founder's tech

everyone who wanted *out* .. sold by Jan 2014

it's why *volume* has declined each year after the last obvious wash trading
match of 36M/36M

and why last year's *volume* total (sub 10c) was on par with 2010's volume total
(definitely not sub 10c)

what may also elude .. is the irony in place .. based on CEs' unrelenting efforts
to provide *liquidity* via abusive trading practices .. has apparently caught up
with them *now* (tho' i'm waiting to see if another 1M .. wash traded to 2M
shows @ the EO this month for *reporting's sake*) ..

this means .. while they can block and abusively short 10000 a few x per day
they won't be able to *mount* a stall of significance with P2O's ability to execute

and that will definitely be worth *documenting* ..

tho' odds are with current time constraints in place .. some aspects will be missed first hand

regardless .. many actual P2O investors have long since drawn their respective
lines in the sand ..

i look forward to the conclusion .. and with P2O's ability to execute .. discovery


4kids





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