Correct, there is no gauging the mind of the inves

Correct, there is no gauging the mind of the investor. Reason and logic cease to exist with big numbers and big numbers on a slow boil over a long period of time tend to jump faster. I also think a buck and higher is not going to happen with the SS, but with all of the proper remedies taken by the company, the move back toward copper is possible. A stronger move has potential as well if people lose the old OTC paradigm of stinky pinky once they realize HJOE has no barriers. I would discount no limits if HJOE sheds the OTC.