I think it may be a bad reflection on true investors when we refer to ourselves as investors. River Boat Gamblers may be a better description. I knew the odds when I placed my bet and spun the wheel. Can't blame anyone but myself. But I'm not going to call that bet an "investment". I only make the distinction because there may be visitors to this blog who mistakenly think we know what we are doing. Just a word of caution to all who wonder with us through the wilderness. I don't see a profit here for long investors. George has diluted that possibility off the table. It's at best a playground for speculators with a little money they don't need. George may very well have a product. After 20+ years its obvious no one wants it at the price he's asking. Both of those items must be true before you can make a sale.