Tabula Rasa
[“Clarify whether the MagneGas made from sewage is the same as MagneGas made from ethylene glycol used as the acetylene replacement. This question has gnawed at me -- ethylene glycol (C2H6O2) seems like a much more potent, robust and consistent feedstock than the sorts of diluted fecal matter that might show up in sewage”–b------ Jan 13, 2014]
C2H602 “seems much more potent”? Really? Perhaps B could elaborate on his scientific rationale behind his belief how the Carbon, Hydrogen & Oxygen atoms in C2H602 “seems” to be more “potent” than exact same C,H, & O atoms contributed from say.. sewage, vegetable oil, or petroleum?
Put another way- do the fundamental properties of a hydrogen atom vary depending on if that atom came directly from a star or sat in my bowels for a few days?
Of course not, but B (and unfortunately most people - including MNGA investors) simply lacks the basic knowledge of chemical reactions & ability for independent reasoning even to be able to identify a chemical reaction.
Think of 20th century technology for the chemical refinement of fuels like baking a cake. You start with your raw ingredients (flour, sugar, water) and by mixing those together/apart & varying temps you can MODIFY the structures into new chemical structures.
MG production is 21st century tech/science–you start with the same common feedstocks (flour, sugar) but once you throw them into a 10,000 degree PLASMA ARC – all the chemical bonds are destroyed - leaving you with a ‘soup’ of ionized atoms - eg Sugar (CH20H) breaks down to C,H,O atoms – indistinguishable now from C,H,O contributed by the wheat. So it’s now tabula rasa – a blank slate.
Now the ‘secret’ sauce of MNGA is really how they package the atoms up together – but..i will save that for another post. For now, I just wanted to point out how ridiculous it is for anyone who was taken back about how the veggie oil (MG2) actually outperforms the anti-freeze (MG1), to STILL BE TALKING Trash!! Lol. Less
rhwingfield
great post don, i would suggest MNGA longs do their own research instead of relying on others, but short of that it's a good thing we have you and jimmy..to add i would suggest that the features of mg or mg2 differ depending on several factors, the feedstock used has a lot to do with the efficiency of the reactor, a more carbon rich feedstock results in greater overunity which just means it take less energy to get similar results which is the crux of profitibility of the whole system,,, but that most any material can be used to get the same results it is just not as profitable, say using water versus waste antifreeze or veggie oil " used french fry grease ", but also varying the pressure inside the reactor itself results in different types of gas just as feedstock and my take is that mg2 is made using higher pressure and more dc current and that leads me to wonder is NASA testing a magnacule gas made under more extreme pressure such as their new reactor capable of 400 psi or greater or the standard gases made from the 20 psi or a gas made from running regular mg through the reactor or even a nitrogen gas that they can also do, which the higher pressure made gas would relate more to a rocket type fuel because of the more fluid consistancy if i have my facts straight. but anyway this is just to whet the other investors appetite to do their own research because once they get to digging it gets very interesting and what about the JOI Scientific connection that gets interesting also but i will post more onn that later as i did find a few details on the JOI Scientific un patented device Less
jimmy
By reading this excellent scientific overview it is exciting to understand that the generation of MG does not necessarily operate alone just by chemistry. This is where many of the closed minded skeptics, classically trained energy technicians and traditional physicist have a hard time comprehending the quantum molecular leap facilitated by the MG discovery. Within the 'secret' sauce recipe of how and why the MG refinery technology packages the liberated atoms from the various carbon rich waste feedstocks is astounding. It is mind boggling to quickly understand how MG can use a choice of used French fry oil from McDonalds as well as waste antifreeze to surgically rearrange the plasma energy and molecular make-up of the various carbon rich waste feedstocks for such a transformational fuel know as MG1, MG2 and beyond. Many mature and inquisitive minds are looking forward to Professor's dons' insightful future post how the MNGA Hadronic Reactor packages the atoms up together for highly energetic hydrogen and energy applications. Less
