I know you're right Bob and have read all kinds of

I know you're right Bob and have read all kinds of info about liehub and its bashers, etc... CEOs know what's going on and have had dealings with the likes of Peggy Turk and her ex-husband, among many others there. Unfortunately like I posted here the other day, not much an individual company or CEO can do against them as the SEC I'm told doesn't respond well to, or care about, companies on OTC.... just read up on what a great company like Overstock.com (Patrick Byrne) went through (btw, I interviewed Byrne years ago during the fiasco for a news operation).

I'm not sure what could really work against these outfits... but I do know that if a company has enough funds, determination and commitment to its shareholders to pull itself out of the manipulation, it can triumph and do well.... and this is what I'm hoping we have with TPAC and Bill McKay.