No argument but I have decided to not sell to the company even after emailing Joel and yes I did get a response . But after everything that has gone on with this stock I would rather take a loss then take the chance of getting nothing .We don't know if there has been one penny made yet because there's no proof of income . So with all the promises made and unfulfilled not sure if I would ever get paid . Yes unfortionatly I have lost that much faith in this stock and company. Plus that lawsuit in Hawaii against Mngg scares me and I have no idea what it's about but rumors