Gentlemen, Ladies and Dreamers: Let me clarify. I am on no ones payroll and have sustained significant losses on this stock. I do maintain a relatively small amount of shares and have written off 90% keeping the remainder so that if by chance this ever takes hold I may someday breakeven. If not, oh well. Considering I've been involved for approx. 5 years and have seen nothing but decline, I do expect to occasionally post my perceived company failures until proven wrong. Waiting for financials and curious to see what amount if any has been paid in royalties on the flat pack. Like your posts, mine at this time are also speculation, based on history/experience, until numbers are released. Keep pumping, hope to break even. Sometimes the truth hurts.