By the way I was not in the last CC. In my gut I think Joel is hiding something and buying time for a turn around but can't do anything. Gold bars or no gold bars is a question Joel can't even seems to keep it straight thereby leaving us all guessing. I know most shareholders here don't like to hear or read the words "reverse split". To me it's the only way now to save us all but before doing it get the pps to 0.0002 when doing it.