I did not say it is a failure but the way you and others talk about the company it makes it seem that you see it as a failure. My average cost is .13 cents so i am not in the position others here are. Stupidly, I did not sell at 1.48 and I feel the pain of not being wise. But without bb we would be worth .00001 cents. You want "in industry help" but that would lead to heavy dilution. So far bb has been working on a shoestring budget, he has been wise to do so. Let see what N-assay brings because it is more valuable than BNP or BNF. Bob