it's pretty clear for those with functioning gray
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that OBG was in the picture with P2O in the back half of 2013
try listening to the audio of the Nov 2013 CC and/or AGM in Dec 2013
or read the transcripts
i posted a couple of posts in March (under worth digesting) >> there
which lay out some relevant points .. or as i call them dot connecting
re-posted some of them yesterday .. scroll down for the links