Hope so-shorters control the discussion over there

Hope so-shorters control the discussion over there and shorted again after PR so they are bashing hard today- so the idea is to provide offense/real info rather than having to deal w defense against bashing. And welcome aboard grajekk and surrogateson and all newcomers-sometimes I think that icrap nixes some of the pm invitations to this board even though I've limited them to 1/day to comply w spam tou's