Yes. As long as PTOI doesn't lie any more even by
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If I start a company with a special proprietary grinder where I hope to turn regular yard waste into delicious salad, there's nothing wrong with trying to get investors. If I lie and say I can make salad for $5/cubic yard for which I have offers of $50/cubic yard, then I've crossed the line. Sure I can grind fresh lettuce and tomatoes pretending it's "waste" and get $50/cubic yard...but the cost will be too expensive. I can likewise grind leaves and grass clippings and get something that's "lettuce-like" but nobody will pay me for it. If I 'validate' my grinder by hiring SAIC to determine profitability based on an assumption of $5 cost and $50 sales and don't disclose the assumptions to investors, I'm likewise defrauding investors.
Alternatively, if I say that I've never found any way of profitably running my revolutionary grinder but hope to find a customer who has something which could be usefully ground into salad, then no problem. At that point the investors who invest because they have faith in my grinder should appropriately lose their money.