PTOI liehub seems dedicated to trade stock; all the fudsters arguments seem to discuss the success of the company only in terms of movement of the stock and not the actual activity of the company. I am an investor only and couldn't give a rats ass about what is happening in the stock at this time. I may never see the share price at a level I would consider selling (may be several more years down the road) but I am not in the business of making money buying low and selling higher. Just out of curiosity are others on this board and the private hang out board traders or investors?