Birdy I have read most of your post there and all of them here. You seem to be a very cool headed person and very positive influence on the way you post. In saying that I see why I-Hub has a problem with you . they cant handle the truth. Tonight I was reading the I-Hub board and they are all worked up about 10Q's. My question is what exactly do they expect to see out of them. I all ready know what we will see as do most of the true investors. Myself my shares are locked, come June 15th they will be 1 year invested, big deal when it come tax time. Jerry take your time get it done right is my theory.