Nub-b... I've been following your thread for about a week now back and forth between the two boards and excuse me for being forward but what the hell are you trying to do? You've exhaustively tried to make a connection between DUTV and Virutone with the ramifications that would apply IF.... I've heard of beating a dead horse but Damn! Where have you heard other than someone said someone said that Virtutone's bankruptcy is going to in some way be a detriment to this company? I completely understand the thought process but it seems to me you are getting a little worked up over something that that has never been confirmed by anyone.