I hear ya, I am also holding long term, although my position is small compared to big holders. I think in the short term it may be flippers, but to have a long term upward movement, the structure will play a big role in the price. We are taking about .01 and above. If the company wants to be on the big boards, then the stock structure will have to come down. No doubt Joel is aware of this, and has already laid the ground work. I am just talking about in the short term because the stock is really cheap and it will be easier to take out big chunks of the float.