Got Foreclosed On Robosigned Docs? Watch Out!
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Posted On: 11/25/2014 7:48:39 AM
Got Foreclosed On Robosigned Docs? Watch Out!
by Karl Denninger
2014-11-24 06:15
You're fixing to get a turkey in Florida folks...
Remember the robo-signers, those mortgage loan automatons who authenticated thousands of foreclosure documents over the years without verifying the information they were swearing to?
Well, they’re back, in a manner of speaking, at least in Florida. Their dubious documents are being used to hound former borrowers years after their homes went into foreclosure.
Robo-signer redux, as it might be called, has come about because of an aggressive pursuit of former borrowers by debt collectors hired by Fannie Mae, the mortgage finance giant. What Fannie is trying to recoup from these borrowers is the difference between what the borrowers owed on the mortgages when they were foreclosed and the amount Fannie received when it resold the properties.
http://tinyurl.com/mueh4vg
This is not egregious because a deficiency judgement is wrong in some way (it's not, although you can escape one through bankruptcy if you have nothing, which is why they're only filed if you have assets worth trying to attack) it's egregious because those robo-foreclosures were fraudulent in the first instance.
This is not about whether you did (or didn't) pay the mortgage. It's about whether the lender followed the law when they foreclosed (they did not in the case of robosigned documents) and now, having served up the ignobility of ripping off the buyers of the securities (by representing that the loan quality in them was of a certain grade when it was not), destroying or falsifying documents (that would have proved the original scam) so as to prevent that discovery and then falsifying new documents so as to eject you from your house (after being unable to present the real ones as they either never existed or were intentionally destroyed to cover up the previous fraud) now they want to pursue you for a debt they cannot perfect the chain of ownership on!
The courts should (but won't) reject these sorts of claims out-of-hand as there is no valid documentary evidence of the indebtedness that can be traced back to the alleged original funding source -- it was destroyed or fabricated!
Without that a deficiency judgment attempt should fail -- but it appears, at least in Florida, it is not.
Where are the honest judges who will toss these suits and sanction those who file them?
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=229618
by Karl Denninger
2014-11-24 06:15
You're fixing to get a turkey in Florida folks...
Remember the robo-signers, those mortgage loan automatons who authenticated thousands of foreclosure documents over the years without verifying the information they were swearing to?
Well, they’re back, in a manner of speaking, at least in Florida. Their dubious documents are being used to hound former borrowers years after their homes went into foreclosure.
Robo-signer redux, as it might be called, has come about because of an aggressive pursuit of former borrowers by debt collectors hired by Fannie Mae, the mortgage finance giant. What Fannie is trying to recoup from these borrowers is the difference between what the borrowers owed on the mortgages when they were foreclosed and the amount Fannie received when it resold the properties.
http://tinyurl.com/mueh4vg
This is not egregious because a deficiency judgement is wrong in some way (it's not, although you can escape one through bankruptcy if you have nothing, which is why they're only filed if you have assets worth trying to attack) it's egregious because those robo-foreclosures were fraudulent in the first instance.
This is not about whether you did (or didn't) pay the mortgage. It's about whether the lender followed the law when they foreclosed (they did not in the case of robosigned documents) and now, having served up the ignobility of ripping off the buyers of the securities (by representing that the loan quality in them was of a certain grade when it was not), destroying or falsifying documents (that would have proved the original scam) so as to prevent that discovery and then falsifying new documents so as to eject you from your house (after being unable to present the real ones as they either never existed or were intentionally destroyed to cover up the previous fraud) now they want to pursue you for a debt they cannot perfect the chain of ownership on!
The courts should (but won't) reject these sorts of claims out-of-hand as there is no valid documentary evidence of the indebtedness that can be traced back to the alleged original funding source -- it was destroyed or fabricated!
Without that a deficiency judgment attempt should fail -- but it appears, at least in Florida, it is not.
Where are the honest judges who will toss these suits and sanction those who file them?
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=229618
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