FNMA Discussion Topics 11/02/2014 09:28:56 $FNMA
Not at all - team Ackman is focusing efforts where justice stands a chance to prevail, verses diluting efforts. This is positive for share holders and in no way demonstrates weakness in our collective goal. It does however, sadly, demonstrate more "ethical" weakness in our political and judicial system - which as an American sucks (but we knew all this anyway & should not be surprised).
Ackman would not have recently strengthened his position to just bail... He is playing an elaborate game of chess and seeks solutions - better to loose a battle in order to win the war! Keep your faith and hang tight.
Thanks OBIT... I agree, this is just a normal and non-emotional reaction to a biased court. Business as usual.
SENSATIONALISM on the other hand is used every day to bombard us with highly emotional stories to evoke a range of responses... (especially in journalism) the use of exciting or shocking stories or language at the expense of accuracy, in order to provoke public interest or excitement.
Sweeney Should Let Discovery Continue --Forbes--link
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardepstein/20...r=yahootix
it's a long article---very good
Glutton for punishment
Moderators please kill mi post #261976 please
Yu shorts? you're against shareholders? re on the side of taxpayers?
FNMA think is to blame for the crisis? banks are innocent?
Here to destabilize? To earn money? To speak the truth? Or the lie? Or simply to speculate?
Because the government did not end with the logo when FNMA was $ .17?
The funds were always in FNMA always .When deslinting until now.
There is nothing in the voluntary dismissal that leads to such a conclusion. The plaintiffs have simply removed themselves from expending time, money and effort in a biased court.
Use of the words "screwed" and "bailed" assumes the ability to directly read the minds and emotions of the plaintiffs, which is a highly doubtable and practical impossibility.
A vivid imagination, on the other hand, can work such wonders...
Thank Obit
When you appear seems that a light shines brighter than the sun.
Thank you. I respect and admire anyone who comes by and justice as well as you ever did
Whatever......But ya better hope Ackman doesn't decide to short FNMA now....lol
There is NO way to know how Sweeney is going to interpret the law.....and how she is going to rule......Absolutley NO way.....So far, at least 3 judges, have rules against shareholders.....Why would she be any different? She spoke very highly of Lamberth in a quote a few years ago.....so......well.....whatever....
Smart Risky. I wish you would just go away, all you do is whine, sensationalize everything, worry, complain, flip flop and can't make your mind up. Please sell and go away.
Not "are" screwed Risky....."Were" screwed.
We are in excellent shape in Sweeneys court.
So.....In a nutshell, Ackman, and his attorneys, realized that they......(and we)..... are screwed. So they bailed.......Lovely.....
The attorneys and plaintiffs clearly recognize that presenting their case to a judge that made a seriously flawed judgement based on a misinformed and misguided opinion in the Perry injunction case is a futile endeavor.
Voluntary dismissal is the outcome of understanding the chances for success with a biased and dismissive court.
What it means for Pershing Square to Voluntarily dismiss lawsuit in Lamberth's court===from Yahoo MB
Pershing Square has two active lawsuits - one in Lamberth and the other in Sweeney's court. Recently, the government filed a motion with Sweeney to force a decision 1) Stay the case before Sweeney or 2) Dismiss due to overlaps with the case in Lamberth's court. The 3rd option available to Sweeney was to Deny the motion to stay, but still with risk of government filing for dismissal. What nobody expected was a masterful nuclear-move by Pershing Square to voluntarily dismiss the lawsuit before Lamberth. In this game of Chess, Pershing Square has sacrificed a Knight to announce a Check Mate. No lawsuit in Lamberth's court = No case for government's Motion to Stay. The end result is the continuation of Discovery as ordered by Sweeney. This is very good news for the shareholders as the Sweeney case is the flagship lawsuit with highest win potential. This case is also feared the most by those afraid of the uncovering of their thievery - not just from shareholders, but from the tax payers and investors worldwide. Congratulations to Pershing and the shareholders.
Your assumption is accurate.
Ackman (and Icahn) will have more time now to focus on FNMA:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/herb...ar-BBchmhR
next week to 3$
Thank you! I believe this to be true. We are dealing with master strategists with billions at stake. Forget the tens of thousands that the rest of us have invested. As if he's just going to pack up his shares and dismiss without any merit. Are you kidding me??
The chickens are coming home to roost for the shorts. Spin this it how you want bashers, I bought back in at $1.73. My share count is looking mighty healthy right now.
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Not at all - team Ackman is focusing efforts where justice stands a chance to prevail, verses diluting efforts. This is positive for share holders and in no way demonstrates weakness in our collective goal. It does however, sadly, demonstrate more "ethical" weakness in our political and judicial system - which as an American sucks (but we knew all this anyway & should not be surprised).
Ackman would not have recently strengthened his position to just bail... He is playing an elaborate game of chess and seeks solutions - better to loose a battle in order to win the war! Keep your faith and hang tight.
Thanks OBIT... I agree, this is just a normal and non-emotional reaction to a biased court. Business as usual.
SENSATIONALISM on the other hand is used every day to bombard us with highly emotional stories to evoke a range of responses... (especially in journalism) the use of exciting or shocking stories or language at the expense of accuracy, in order to provoke public interest or excitement.
Sweeney Should Let Discovery Continue --Forbes--link
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardepstein/20...r=yahootix
it's a long article---very good
Glutton for punishment
Moderators please kill mi post #261976 please
Yu shorts? you're against shareholders? re on the side of taxpayers?
FNMA think is to blame for the crisis? banks are innocent?
Here to destabilize? To earn money? To speak the truth? Or the lie? Or simply to speculate?
Because the government did not end with the logo when FNMA was $ .17?
The funds were always in FNMA always .When deslinting until now.
There is nothing in the voluntary dismissal that leads to such a conclusion. The plaintiffs have simply removed themselves from expending time, money and effort in a biased court.
Use of the words "screwed" and "bailed" assumes the ability to directly read the minds and emotions of the plaintiffs, which is a highly doubtable and practical impossibility.
A vivid imagination, on the other hand, can work such wonders...
Thank Obit
When you appear seems that a light shines brighter than the sun.
Thank you. I respect and admire anyone who comes by and justice as well as you ever did
Whatever......But ya better hope Ackman doesn't decide to short FNMA now....lol
There is NO way to know how Sweeney is going to interpret the law.....and how she is going to rule......Absolutley NO way.....So far, at least 3 judges, have rules against shareholders.....Why would she be any different? She spoke very highly of Lamberth in a quote a few years ago.....so......well.....whatever....
Smart Risky. I wish you would just go away, all you do is whine, sensationalize everything, worry, complain, flip flop and can't make your mind up. Please sell and go away.
Not "are" screwed Risky....."Were" screwed.
We are in excellent shape in Sweeneys court.
So.....In a nutshell, Ackman, and his attorneys, realized that they......(and we)..... are screwed. So they bailed.......Lovely.....
The attorneys and plaintiffs clearly recognize that presenting their case to a judge that made a seriously flawed judgement based on a misinformed and misguided opinion in the Perry injunction case is a futile endeavor.
Voluntary dismissal is the outcome of understanding the chances for success with a biased and dismissive court.
What it means for Pershing Square to Voluntarily dismiss lawsuit in Lamberth's court===from Yahoo MB
Pershing Square has two active lawsuits - one in Lamberth and the other in Sweeney's court. Recently, the government filed a motion with Sweeney to force a decision 1) Stay the case before Sweeney or 2) Dismiss due to overlaps with the case in Lamberth's court. The 3rd option available to Sweeney was to Deny the motion to stay, but still with risk of government filing for dismissal. What nobody expected was a masterful nuclear-move by Pershing Square to voluntarily dismiss the lawsuit before Lamberth. In this game of Chess, Pershing Square has sacrificed a Knight to announce a Check Mate. No lawsuit in Lamberth's court = No case for government's Motion to Stay. The end result is the continuation of Discovery as ordered by Sweeney. This is very good news for the shareholders as the Sweeney case is the flagship lawsuit with highest win potential. This case is also feared the most by those afraid of the uncovering of their thievery - not just from shareholders, but from the tax payers and investors worldwide. Congratulations to Pershing and the shareholders.
Your assumption is accurate.
Ackman (and Icahn) will have more time now to focus on FNMA:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/herb...ar-BBchmhR
next week to 3$
Thank you! I believe this to be true. We are dealing with master strategists with billions at stake. Forget the tens of thousands that the rest of us have invested. As if he's just going to pack up his shares and dismiss without any merit. Are you kidding me??
The chickens are coming home to roost for the shorts. Spin this it how you want bashers, I bought back in at $1.73. My share count is looking mighty healthy right now.
Fannie Mae Releases September 2014 Monthly Summary "PR Newswire (US)" - 10/31/2014 4:01:00 PM
Outlook for U.S. Economic Growth Still Solid Even as Global Growth Slows "PR Newswire (US)" - 10/23/2014 9:00:00 AM
Walker & Dunlop Originates $108M Fannie Mae MHC Loan "PR Newswire (US)" - 10/21/2014 4:43:00 PM
Successful Crohn’s Disease Drug Trial Send Celgene Shares Soaring and Fannie Mae Jumps on Shareholder Lawsuit "InvestorsHub NewsWire" - 10/21/2014
Fannie Mae Prices $1.32 Billion Multifamily DUS REMIC (FNA 2014-M12) Under Its Fannie Mae GeMS™ Program "PR Newswire (US)" - 10/17/2014 9:00:00 AM
Market Swoon Bruises Some Hedge Funds--Update 1 "Dow Jones News" - 10/14/2014 5:54:46 PM
ALTITRADE PARTNERS™ SAYS A KEY-REVERSAL DAY COULD HAPPEN THIS WEEK "InvestorsHub NewsWire" - 10/14/2014 6:00:00 AM
Americans' Attitudes on Housing Return to Positive Trend "PR Newswire (US)" - 10/7/2014 9:00:00 AM
Fannie Mae Releases August 2014 Monthly Summary "PR Newswire (US)" - 9/30/2014 4:01:00 PM
Near-Term Growth Outlook Remains Intact as Economy Continues to Accelerate "PR Newswire (US)" - 9/23/2014 9:00:00 AM
Minority Borrowers Feel Mortgage Pinch--Update 2 "Dow Jones News" - 9/22/2014 6:54:36 PM
Mortgage Lender Sentiment Survey Results Show Large Lenders Expect Credit Standards to Ease During Next Three Months "PR Newswire (US)" - 9/17/2014 9:00:00 AM
Fannie Mae Prices $986 Million Multifamily DUS REMIC (FNA 2014-M10) Under Its Fannie Mae GeMS™ Program "PR Newswire (US)" - 9/16/2014 9:09:00 AM
HSBC Confirms FHFA Settlement, Will Pay $550 Million "Dow Jones News" - 9/12/2014 5:40:38 PM
Consumer Housing Sentiment Loses Momentum as Income Growth Remains Stagnant "PR Newswire (US)" - 9/8/2014 9:00:00 AM
Fannie Mae Releases July 2014 Monthly Summary "PR Newswire (US)" - 8/29/2014 4:01:00 PM
Goldman Close to Settling FHFA Lawsuit for Over $1 Billion -- Update "Dow Jones News" - 8/22/2014 5:05:39 PM
2014 Economic Growth Expectations Get Boost from Second Quarter Rebound "PR Newswire (US)" - 8/18/2014 9:03:00 AM
Fannie Mae Prices $950 Million Multifamily DUS REMIC (FNA 2014-M9) Under Its Fannie Mae GeMS™ Program "PR Newswire (US)" - 8/15/2014 3:36:00 PM
Common Shareholders of Fannie & Freddie, Including Pershing Square & Three Individuals, File Suit against United States Gover... "Business Wire" - 8/14/2014 8:39:00 PM
NEW CONCEPT LAUNCHES TODAY FOR MICRO-CAP STOCK TRADERS. RECEIVE PAID PRE-PROMO STOCK ALERTS FOR FREE. "InvestorsHub NewsWire" - 8/14/2014 12:29:20 PM
Fannie Mae Releases June 2014 Monthly Summary "PR Newswire (US)" - 7/31/2014 4:01:00 PM
Fannie Mae Releases New Mortgage Lender Sentiment Survey Results "PR Newswire (US)" - 7/24/2014 9:00:00 AM
Economic Growth Expected to Strengthen During Second Half of 2014, But Not Enough to Save the Year "PR Newswire (US)" - 7/23/2014 9:00:00 AM
