post copy-A.)I understand why it seems odd that so

post copy-A.)I understand why it seems odd that someone with no apparent stake in the "game" would post here. I live in Arizona, pay taxes here, and ultimately, the State will end up paying for the mess that con-men like Joel and John Owen create. That pisses me off.

Besides, if you saw someone ripping off an old lady's purse, would you stand by and say "I don't have a stake here, none of my business"?? If it weren't for the few skeptics that post here, you all would still be thinking that no permits and no MSHA training were needed. I am no Boy Scout or looking for some kind of sainthood, and you are an adult (presumably) who has made a decision to invest in a highly risky pinksheet. However, I feel I have an opportunity to negate some of the absolute nonsense that the crooks are spouting to line their pockets with investors' money.

By Joel going and sitting through three days of on-line classes after mining for four months without the MSHA certification, what does that tell you?

B.)Good post-why not help the situation-give advice-help EVERYONE involved?
IMO-beneficial for the state,enviornment.regulators,Ect-just my 2 cents.
Experience is beneficial and should be shared.
Just like the purse-buystander--just watch- or help.

C.)Already done.

You can help too by reading up on mining rules and regulations, and maybe some reading on what constitutes actual gold exploration (seven grab samples off a pile of rocks, is not legit). Report back.....