FITX Discussion 08/31/2014 02:25:24 $FITX
Can you please let Mr. Foran and Mr. Bain, the mayor know. I am sure they would appreciate knowing they do not have a clue as town officials. They might even name a street after you.
I watched them as well. Some of the applicants are going to be approved. Since there are several applicants, and no one knows when any of them applied, nor does Bill since it is confidential information, it is difficult to determine who gets approved. CEN is the only one who boasted of having received all municipal approvals. Can you name any other applicant for the town of Lakeshore? There was one company who turned down the site #1 because of the value added designation and the fact that previous attempts to have site #1 rezoned resulted in failure.
Look, I want this to succeed but the issue I have is with the pronouncements made by investors and others about what was approved or not approved. I went to the source and got a very different answer. As Mr. Foran stated to me, and which I posted here last March, they had yet to receive any official notification from CEN about a medical mj grow op, and what they were hearing they were reading in the press. Mr. Foran does not even know if the town could provide the necessary uitility infrastructure for the "worlds largest medical mj facility" because the company had yet to tell them just how big it was going to be, what they would require for water and power and so on. It was all hearsay from the perspective of the town.
So not knowing who else has applied nor how large those facilities might be, can only lead to speculation.
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I believe that FITX has made some awesome alliances. Time will tell if they execute. Right now we are in the early stages of building this company into a MJ powerhouse. If after 6 months we are still waiting for a license and nothing is happening then you were right. However, they have come through with the land and buildings so I feel confident that they are making strides. I do understand your doubt. In the end this is a penny stock with little revenues but incredible potential in a new, explosive market. The brass ring is there.
Again everything was discussed at the town meeting. It's clear as day grandfathered
If they do rezoning that would only effect businesses that are not already operating or pulled correct permits. It would only effect new businesses
Fitx already pulled all correct permits for agricultural facility which means grandfathered in. Doesn't matter if they grow tomatoes corn marijuana or soybeans
The only permits they have pulled are construction permits. The construction permits are in the name of Jim Shaaban (I checked) for site #1. They have no permits for site #1 grow op at all since they are in a value added zone. To use more than 6000 square feet of process space they have applied for a zoning amendment. It does not matter what HC deems anything. Their interpreations do not take precedence over local regulations. They would prefer to have grow ops in agricultural zones but nothing says they must be. The rule of law is on the side of the municipality and it clearly states all applicants must abide by local zoning by laws.
CEN has applied for a zoning amendment for site #1. They have notified the town of their intention to seek a license for site #2 but as of last July, have not filed a zoning amendment application with the town which Mr. Foran says they will be required to do.
The permits for the building state "agricultural storage", nothing else. That is the end use given on the building permit.
The town does want this but as Mr. Foran stated publicly and in private correspondence, it is not a huge tax windfall for the town. The town needs to determine if they can provide the necessary water and electrical requirements but until they receive final requirments from the applicants, they cannot make that determination. So there is much to be be done, and it will get done. It is just a matter of time. The town recognizes this is not going to go away but with several applicants asking the town for permission to locate there, who knows which way the pendulem will swing on all of the applications.
Correct
I watched all council meetings they even brought it up at the meetings and discussed the issue
They could push for re-zoning to industrial which would cost FITX more money in taxes. I think that would be the worst case scenario.
I don't think the town is going to do anything stupid. However, they want to understand what a MJ facility is all about. The fence, the vault, fumes, security, etc. They are all valid concerns. Right now FITX has pulled all the correct permits and are ready and waiting to grow. HC deems medical MJ crops as agricultural. That is what one of the board members stated to the board at one of the meetings. She called HC to get more info. I gathered that they weren't that helpful. She also contacted other places that have dealt with these issues. The town must take that into account and can't supersede their government's laws. The town lawyer said this themselves. They want the tax revenue and jobs but they also want to make their supporters happy too.
Not according to the mayor and the CAO. You might be best advised to take it up with them. You are talking of Canadian law, and the Ontario Municipal Board must sign off.
Good question. I have no idea. They may have invented a game changing product but it needs to be marketed. Sales reps. need to call on building supply companies and setup visual demos of the product along with education for the sales team. They also need to go to every tradeshow possible that is relevant. I would love to see the big box stores carry some of their products. I believe they sell the raw materials that can be formed into walls, etc. It would be cool if they started to produce bricks and other cement products with the hemp. 10 states have already passed laws enabling hemp cultivation, though federal law has kept those efforts from moving forward. These states are Colorado, Washington, California, Kentucky, Maine, Montana, North Dakota, Oregon, Vermont and West Virginia – some of which are preempting the farm bill’s passage by beginning to draft rules and regulations to govern hemp production.
Again if there was legislation there would be no need to be grandfathered lol
But since there isn't they've pulled permits for agriculture which it falls under. Then when legislation is past all current businesses operating already are grandfathered in and all new businesses have to abide by the new legislation
The key is there is no current legislation upon which to grandfather anyone in. And if site #1 is not part of the new medical mj plan, they will have to apply for a zoning amendment because of the processing size restrictions at site #1
It clearly states in the proposal about site specific applications so site #1 could fall under that.
Another article. Hempcrete is really an amazing product. The more I read about it the more I see how truly revolutionary this product is. We may be overlooking the Hemp play. It actually could be a huge homerun for FITX. I hope they take it to every building trade show. http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/02/0...-material/
Really cause this grandfathered issue has played out in the US hundreds of times already
This is what the term grandfathered means.
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I think you need to read my last post to correct your misconception.
Taken from the Hempcrete company website.
Welcome to the website of Hempcrete Pty Ltd,
the Australian Hempcrete Technologists and suppliers of INSULIME and INSULCORE...
This event has taken us 5.5 years in the making and has been a long but enjoyable process.
Hempcrete is an amazing building product and our company is focused on making it a truly commercially viable and accessible product for everybody to use. Whether commercial, industrial, retail or domestic, buildings built with hempcrete are comfortable, efficient and healthy buildings.
Here at Hempcrete Pty Ltd, we have focused our attention on the construction process and we are developing technologies aimed at simplicity, ease, speed and reliability. We are the Australasian suppliers of INSULIME (Batichanvre®) and INSULCORE from EIO. This provides us with reliable verifiable technical data with over 20 years of experience and knowledge behind it rather than reinventing the wheel ourselves regarding the hempcrete binder.
By providing professional training, we lead tradespeople to become Hempcrete Installers that will serve customers building with this versatile BCA certified product. See TRAINING on this site
We also supply hemp shiv for the purposes of making hempcrete. In addition, Hempcrete is also in a position to carry out the installation process as well and will work closely with your designers and builders to ensure the experience of the hempcrete process is as straight forward as the current building materials available in the market. Hempcrete Pty Ltd is committed to the advancement of the Hemp industry here in Australia but it is hempcrete that we are focused on. We leave the hemp production to the experts whilst tackling the job of being hempcrete technologists.
Spin this any way you like.
Names have been removed from the sender: Replies from town officials are in bold.
Email to Mr. Bain.
Your Worship,
>
> As the town considers new amendments to accomodate the growing medical marijuana and hemp acitivity, would firms who have given notice by way of applicatin (asking to be approved in a certain zone or asking for a zoning amendment) be grandfathered in? What I mean is would any companies who gave notice to the town before the consideration of these new amendments be grandfathered in and whatever the town dedides and approves?
>
> Thank you.
Mr. Bain to sender from his phone.
NoSent from my iPhone
And another reply, to ensure there is more than one town official stating this.
Lakeshore Council is now considering policies that would permit development of medical marijuana and hemp operations within Lakeshore. At present, these policies do not exist. Unless planning documents permit certain uses they are defacto prohibited.
I trust the above addresses your question.
Regards,
Kirk.
Thank you sir. I would assume then by your response there is no "grandfather" clause at this time. I must say the steps you and the town are taking should be commended, and show strong foresight, and the willingness to accept and adopt a new industry based on the needs of the town and its residents. I only wish more communities were more forthcoming in a similar manner.
And the reply from Mr. Foran.
Correct. You cannot "grandfather" a use that does not yet exist! The medical marijuana facility is being proposed.
Kirk Foran
Chief Administrative Officer
I would say that makes it pretty clear. If those are not their responses and I am lying, please have the town counsel contact me and I will plead guilty to misreprenting the views of a government official.
Can you please let Mr. Foran and Mr. Bain, the mayor know. I am sure they would appreciate knowing they do not have a clue as town officials. They might even name a street after you.
I watched them as well. Some of the applicants are going to be approved. Since there are several applicants, and no one knows when any of them applied, nor does Bill since it is confidential information, it is difficult to determine who gets approved. CEN is the only one who boasted of having received all municipal approvals. Can you name any other applicant for the town of Lakeshore? There was one company who turned down the site #1 because of the value added designation and the fact that previous attempts to have site #1 rezoned resulted in failure.
Look, I want this to succeed but the issue I have is with the pronouncements made by investors and others about what was approved or not approved. I went to the source and got a very different answer. As Mr. Foran stated to me, and which I posted here last March, they had yet to receive any official notification from CEN about a medical mj grow op, and what they were hearing they were reading in the press. Mr. Foran does not even know if the town could provide the necessary uitility infrastructure for the "worlds largest medical mj facility" because the company had yet to tell them just how big it was going to be, what they would require for water and power and so on. It was all hearsay from the perspective of the town.
So not knowing who else has applied nor how large those facilities might be, can only lead to speculation.
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I believe that FITX has made some awesome alliances. Time will tell if they execute. Right now we are in the early stages of building this company into a MJ powerhouse. If after 6 months we are still waiting for a license and nothing is happening then you were right. However, they have come through with the land and buildings so I feel confident that they are making strides. I do understand your doubt. In the end this is a penny stock with little revenues but incredible potential in a new, explosive market. The brass ring is there.
Again everything was discussed at the town meeting. It's clear as day grandfathered
If they do rezoning that would only effect businesses that are not already operating or pulled correct permits. It would only effect new businesses
Fitx already pulled all correct permits for agricultural facility which means grandfathered in. Doesn't matter if they grow tomatoes corn marijuana or soybeans
The only permits they have pulled are construction permits. The construction permits are in the name of Jim Shaaban (I checked) for site #1. They have no permits for site #1 grow op at all since they are in a value added zone. To use more than 6000 square feet of process space they have applied for a zoning amendment. It does not matter what HC deems anything. Their interpreations do not take precedence over local regulations. They would prefer to have grow ops in agricultural zones but nothing says they must be. The rule of law is on the side of the municipality and it clearly states all applicants must abide by local zoning by laws.
CEN has applied for a zoning amendment for site #1. They have notified the town of their intention to seek a license for site #2 but as of last July, have not filed a zoning amendment application with the town which Mr. Foran says they will be required to do.
The permits for the building state "agricultural storage", nothing else. That is the end use given on the building permit.
The town does want this but as Mr. Foran stated publicly and in private correspondence, it is not a huge tax windfall for the town. The town needs to determine if they can provide the necessary water and electrical requirements but until they receive final requirments from the applicants, they cannot make that determination. So there is much to be be done, and it will get done. It is just a matter of time. The town recognizes this is not going to go away but with several applicants asking the town for permission to locate there, who knows which way the pendulem will swing on all of the applications.
Correct
I watched all council meetings they even brought it up at the meetings and discussed the issue
They could push for re-zoning to industrial which would cost FITX more money in taxes. I think that would be the worst case scenario.
I don't think the town is going to do anything stupid. However, they want to understand what a MJ facility is all about. The fence, the vault, fumes, security, etc. They are all valid concerns. Right now FITX has pulled all the correct permits and are ready and waiting to grow. HC deems medical MJ crops as agricultural. That is what one of the board members stated to the board at one of the meetings. She called HC to get more info. I gathered that they weren't that helpful. She also contacted other places that have dealt with these issues. The town must take that into account and can't supersede their government's laws. The town lawyer said this themselves. They want the tax revenue and jobs but they also want to make their supporters happy too.
Not according to the mayor and the CAO. You might be best advised to take it up with them. You are talking of Canadian law, and the Ontario Municipal Board must sign off.
Good question. I have no idea. They may have invented a game changing product but it needs to be marketed. Sales reps. need to call on building supply companies and setup visual demos of the product along with education for the sales team. They also need to go to every tradeshow possible that is relevant. I would love to see the big box stores carry some of their products. I believe they sell the raw materials that can be formed into walls, etc. It would be cool if they started to produce bricks and other cement products with the hemp. 10 states have already passed laws enabling hemp cultivation, though federal law has kept those efforts from moving forward. These states are Colorado, Washington, California, Kentucky, Maine, Montana, North Dakota, Oregon, Vermont and West Virginia – some of which are preempting the farm bill’s passage by beginning to draft rules and regulations to govern hemp production.
Again if there was legislation there would be no need to be grandfathered lol
But since there isn't they've pulled permits for agriculture which it falls under. Then when legislation is past all current businesses operating already are grandfathered in and all new businesses have to abide by the new legislation
The key is there is no current legislation upon which to grandfather anyone in. And if site #1 is not part of the new medical mj plan, they will have to apply for a zoning amendment because of the processing size restrictions at site #1
It clearly states in the proposal about site specific applications so site #1 could fall under that.
Another article. Hempcrete is really an amazing product. The more I read about it the more I see how truly revolutionary this product is. We may be overlooking the Hemp play. It actually could be a huge homerun for FITX. I hope they take it to every building trade show. http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/02/0...-material/
Really cause this grandfathered issue has played out in the US hundreds of times already
This is what the term grandfathered means.
Pre ICO LA dispensaries
I think you need to read my last post to correct your misconception.
Taken from the Hempcrete company website.
Welcome to the website of Hempcrete Pty Ltd,
the Australian Hempcrete Technologists and suppliers of INSULIME and INSULCORE...
This event has taken us 5.5 years in the making and has been a long but enjoyable process.
Hempcrete is an amazing building product and our company is focused on making it a truly commercially viable and accessible product for everybody to use. Whether commercial, industrial, retail or domestic, buildings built with hempcrete are comfortable, efficient and healthy buildings.
Here at Hempcrete Pty Ltd, we have focused our attention on the construction process and we are developing technologies aimed at simplicity, ease, speed and reliability. We are the Australasian suppliers of INSULIME (Batichanvre®) and INSULCORE from EIO. This provides us with reliable verifiable technical data with over 20 years of experience and knowledge behind it rather than reinventing the wheel ourselves regarding the hempcrete binder.
By providing professional training, we lead tradespeople to become Hempcrete Installers that will serve customers building with this versatile BCA certified product. See TRAINING on this site
We also supply hemp shiv for the purposes of making hempcrete. In addition, Hempcrete is also in a position to carry out the installation process as well and will work closely with your designers and builders to ensure the experience of the hempcrete process is as straight forward as the current building materials available in the market. Hempcrete Pty Ltd is committed to the advancement of the Hemp industry here in Australia but it is hempcrete that we are focused on. We leave the hemp production to the experts whilst tackling the job of being hempcrete technologists.
Spin this any way you like.
Names have been removed from the sender: Replies from town officials are in bold.
Email to Mr. Bain.
Your Worship,
>
> As the town considers new amendments to accomodate the growing medical marijuana and hemp acitivity, would firms who have given notice by way of applicatin (asking to be approved in a certain zone or asking for a zoning amendment) be grandfathered in? What I mean is would any companies who gave notice to the town before the consideration of these new amendments be grandfathered in and whatever the town dedides and approves?
>
> Thank you.
Mr. Bain to sender from his phone.
NoSent from my iPhone
And another reply, to ensure there is more than one town official stating this.
Lakeshore Council is now considering policies that would permit development of medical marijuana and hemp operations within Lakeshore. At present, these policies do not exist. Unless planning documents permit certain uses they are defacto prohibited.
I trust the above addresses your question.
Regards,
Kirk.
Thank you sir. I would assume then by your response there is no "grandfather" clause at this time. I must say the steps you and the town are taking should be commended, and show strong foresight, and the willingness to accept and adopt a new industry based on the needs of the town and its residents. I only wish more communities were more forthcoming in a similar manner.
And the reply from Mr. Foran.
Correct. You cannot "grandfather" a use that does not yet exist! The medical marijuana facility is being proposed.
Kirk Foran
Chief Administrative Officer
I would say that makes it pretty clear. If those are not their responses and I am lying, please have the town counsel contact me and I will plead guilty to misreprenting the views of a government official.
