NTEK Opinions 08/30/2014 02:29:40 $NTEK
I don't like their limited selection. Admittedly, I'm more of a blockbuster kind of guy and I miss the days when they were not all closed essentially. One in my town recently closed. Used to go there and walk around for like an hour looking over the movies and would rent a few oldies and a new one usually. With redbox, you just get relatively new movies I think.
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NanoTech Entertainment Appoints Mitch Lowe (of NETFLIX/REDBOX)
to Content Advisory Board:
http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140131-912038.html
https://nuvola4k.com/
http://ultraflix.com/
http://4kstudios.com/
http://ntek.com/
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Redbox is ridiculously convenient. There are something like 30 Redbox kiosks within a block of my normal route home from work. I can reserve a disk at any of them online, or just show up and hope they have it, then return it to a different one when I'm done with it.
They do have a streaming service, but as you might expect, it's not such a big deal.
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What's up with that Redbox? Are they offering movies by mail yet like Netflix?
Yea, cheap. But you gotta drive (or walk). What's up with that Redbox? Are they offering movies by mail yet like Netflix?
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No, not subliminally. When the movie loads up, it goes to like a content provider licensing page first. It has their business info listed and all kinds of info I haven't taken much time to read.
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Want to know what a Redbox Blu-Ray disk goes for nowadays?
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I remember walking into a blockbuster and getting 2 movies for 5 days for like 8 bucks or less.
$1.50/night. Movies just hot off general release. Granted, there are films, like Divergent, which aren't really worth $1.50, but still, that's obviously a relatively hot (not for long) video commodity.
Redbox makes money selling Divergent at $1.50 a pop. At 1080p Blu-Ray. I don't feel like I'm missing out on not seeing this second-rate Hunger Games wannabe flick in 4K.
There was a time, at the outset, when I bought every new Blu-Ray available, on the grounds that high-resolution turned crap into gold.
Know something? It's doesn't! High-resolution crap is still crap! Divergent in 4K wouldn't be a scintilla more entertaining.
What? Subliminally?
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based on the other company's name showing up as the movies load up
Ultraflix is a publicly available service to anyone owning an NP-1, yes?
I can understand if an NTEK executive whispered something to you over the phone, but what rationale do you have for not making public information that you gleaned from watching a movie on the device?
What company are we talking about here? What in the world makes it a secret, and how, pray tell, do they make this company's name come up, as if it was an accident or something?
Well, that is my "assumption" based on the new movies there in Ultraflix V1.2. Thanks for clarifying why I said it. The only way I can explain these movies is through my reasoning of a deal with a content provider. I don't see any other way, unless the movies are pirated...likely not, based on the content provider's name showing up as the movies load up. (also the cost of these movies, ouch)
I guess it's not so bad, when Sony and others charge like $7.99 for 24 hr for rentals of their 4K movies.
I remember walking into a blockbuster and getting 2 movies for 5 days for like 8 bucks or less.
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And how, exactly, did you come by this tidbit?
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I can tell you that there is already one very interesting content provider definitely dealing with Ultraflix that seems to not have been publicly announced.
Since NTEK publicly announces all sorts of "partnerships" that don't really exist, then accuses people who believed it and paid money into that belief of being gullible idiots (true enough, I suppose), I find it unbelievably hard to believe that there's an actual genuine content provider on the horizon that's willing to do actual business with them.
Personally, I don't think NTEK would even know, at this point, what an honest business dealing would look, sound, or smell like, but I'm still all ears.
Did they put some sort of teaser in the main Ultraflix menu? A Spiderman link that's sort of greyed out and doesn't really work yet, maybe? Something like that?
I'm not certain about content providers. I can tell you that there is already one very interesting content provider definitely dealing with Ultraflix that seems to not have been publicly announced.
And yes, there has been quite a lot of "pumping" discussion regarding the NP-1 on this board. But I don't let that influence my investment decisions. Once you make it through the filter, and see what I have seen on the NP-1, you see that there is some truth to it, but the truth is always different than what you'd expect.
When you say they have nothing to offer, I am assuming you haven't purchased the NP-1 and have not viewed Ultraflix. I'm not saying it's perfect and that it is the greatest offering of all possible publicly available (not yet) 4k channels etc. assuming those exist which they don't right now..by far, no. But it's a darned good start from the way I see it. My family has already "used" it for our purposes. /wink
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You'd still need a reason for content providers to deal with NTEK at all.
If you may recall, the original reason was supposed to be that NP-1 was the only game in town, and so content providers would be forced to go through them.
Now, they're just going to be another IPTV channel on a smart TV. Smart enough that it has an HEVC decoder built in, but that will be available to all comers for nothing. Anyone, like Hulu, who wants to run 4K content, can. Easily.
NTEK will have no advantage at all.
And no, don't come back and say they have mastering capability. Those machines and shops to turn film into 4K are thick on the ground in Hollywood. They have to be, because more and more cinemas, if not all, are now digital.
That means pretty much any movie you've seen in the last few years is also 4K-ready. If there's a market for it, which has yet to be proven.
But NTEK isn't really in the game at all, because they have absolutely nothing to offer.
I think it is wrong to suggest Nanotech is trying to compete with Sony and Samsung. I don't think that is what is going on at all. In fact, I think Nanotech is hoping Samsung and Sony will eventually let Ultraflix be ported onto new Sony/Samsung TVs (who knows) instead. So I'm not sure what you mean by a competition you suggest may be occurring (i.e. Nanotech begging Sony/Samsung not to produce universally compatible media players). That isn't the case at all I think. And I don't think anyone really cares now about competitive media players. It is the nature of hardware to fall out of use and it only makes you so much money. But an online video service...now that can just give and keep on giving. That's why Ultraflix was and is always the end goal here. And surprisingly, it already has "good" content. It shouldn't but it does lol. We'll see what the next few months brings it.
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I actually agree with you about Sony and Samsung. They will see the light sooner or later, when their sales take a hit from their selfish acts. They are hurting themselves by not letting 4K reach critical mass and don't even realize it yet.
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When you've invested the amount of money I have into Nanotech, $300 for a media player is chump change
Hence, it is far not too expensive
And like I said, I have an advantage over others who do not have the NP-1 yet. I can determine from the box, what kind of investment I have made. I can check the internal operation. I don't have to rely on secondhand information like many others are.
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Because it's far too expensive for the purpose that you cite as its primary benefit.
That's in your own words. What you like most about the features of the product are things that are available for far less money elsewhere, and in the case of the Shield, with added features that simply blow NP-1 out of the water, no question, no argument.
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Why get those? Why not use the product of the company I am invested in, so that I may determine if the product is good or not?
As for Sony and Samsung's limited and downright annoyingly self-serving entrances into the market, that'll settle itself in time. Both will produce boxes that work with the other's sets and everyone else's.
I mean, it's not like we haven't seen the evolution of TV technology before, right?
Will NTEK beg Sony and Samsung to never produce a box that works with all sets? Honestly, that's what they'll be left with.
If you could point to a content holder that desperately wants to get their 4k content out there now, all other considerations be damned, so much so that they'll work with some sleazy penny stock run by criminals to do it, then I'll listen.
What studio or other content holder is that desperate to get their 4K content to user's eyeballs?
Why get those? Why not use the product of the company I am invested in, so that I may determine if the product is good or not? I have tested the product. It is a good product. Two birds with one stone. I get to play games. And the product is good.
I can also determine the veracity of any claims made against or for the product, including your own
Another advantage I have is that I can test Ultraflix before its official release (outside of the NP-1) to determine whether or not it is worth it to stay invested in this company. I have determined from my initial viewing of Ultraflix that this is a sound investment with a lot of room for growth.
Since I've gotten Ultraflix v1.2, I have rented 6 movies. Four more freebies -)
Also, Sony and Samsung, want you to buy their 4K TVs. Hence, they make media players specific to their TV. Then deliver content that way claiming that they are concerned about piracy, when really they just want you to buy an expensive 4K TV that almost costs the same to make as an HD tv. Ultraflix is going to be an open platform on multiple TVs, and eventually will have a VOD service, much like Amazon Prime. IN fact, Ultraflix and Amazon Prime already share a few movies
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So why did you spend twice the money?
You could get the same thing in a Mad Katz MOJO for much less money and play the same games.
Even better, buy an nVidia Shield. The Shield Tablet is spendy, because it's the Tegra K1, but the regular Shield is the same Tegra 4 as NP-1, and not only does it play the same games, and not only does it have its own very nice high-def screen, so it's mobile, but it still comes in at a mere $199, well under the price of the obsolete and buggy NP-1.
Why would anyone pay so much money for such a piece of junk as an NP-1?
Does Nanotech Entertainment think we're idiots?
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My favorite aspect about the NP-1 is still the games on google play.
There will never be audited financials.
Their promises to produce such audited financials have always been blatant lies in the past, and are blatant lies now.
They will be blatant lies a year from now, and there will still be people who believe them and say audited financials are right around the corner.
No reputable firm would sign off on the raft of lies that NTEK calls their revenue stream.
I don't like their limited selection. Admittedly, I'm more of a blockbuster kind of guy and I miss the days when they were not all closed essentially. One in my town recently closed. Used to go there and walk around for like an hour looking over the movies and would rent a few oldies and a new one usually. With redbox, you just get relatively new movies I think.
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NanoTech Entertainment Appoints Mitch Lowe (of NETFLIX/REDBOX)
to Content Advisory Board:
http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140131-912038.html
https://nuvola4k.com/
http://ultraflix.com/
http://4kstudios.com/
http://ntek.com/
NTEK
NTEK Stock Message Board http://investorshangout.com/Nanotech-Entertai...TEK-64947/
Redbox is ridiculously convenient. There are something like 30 Redbox kiosks within a block of my normal route home from work. I can reserve a disk at any of them online, or just show up and hope they have it, then return it to a different one when I'm done with it.
They do have a streaming service, but as you might expect, it's not such a big deal.
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What's up with that Redbox? Are they offering movies by mail yet like Netflix?
Yea, cheap. But you gotta drive (or walk). What's up with that Redbox? Are they offering movies by mail yet like Netflix?
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No, not subliminally. When the movie loads up, it goes to like a content provider licensing page first. It has their business info listed and all kinds of info I haven't taken much time to read.
$NTEK
Want to know what a Redbox Blu-Ray disk goes for nowadays?
Quote:
I remember walking into a blockbuster and getting 2 movies for 5 days for like 8 bucks or less.
$1.50/night. Movies just hot off general release. Granted, there are films, like Divergent, which aren't really worth $1.50, but still, that's obviously a relatively hot (not for long) video commodity.
Redbox makes money selling Divergent at $1.50 a pop. At 1080p Blu-Ray. I don't feel like I'm missing out on not seeing this second-rate Hunger Games wannabe flick in 4K.
There was a time, at the outset, when I bought every new Blu-Ray available, on the grounds that high-resolution turned crap into gold.
Know something? It's doesn't! High-resolution crap is still crap! Divergent in 4K wouldn't be a scintilla more entertaining.
What? Subliminally?
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based on the other company's name showing up as the movies load up
Ultraflix is a publicly available service to anyone owning an NP-1, yes?
I can understand if an NTEK executive whispered something to you over the phone, but what rationale do you have for not making public information that you gleaned from watching a movie on the device?
What company are we talking about here? What in the world makes it a secret, and how, pray tell, do they make this company's name come up, as if it was an accident or something?
Well, that is my "assumption" based on the new movies there in Ultraflix V1.2. Thanks for clarifying why I said it. The only way I can explain these movies is through my reasoning of a deal with a content provider. I don't see any other way, unless the movies are pirated...likely not, based on the content provider's name showing up as the movies load up. (also the cost of these movies, ouch)
I guess it's not so bad, when Sony and others charge like $7.99 for 24 hr for rentals of their 4K movies.
I remember walking into a blockbuster and getting 2 movies for 5 days for like 8 bucks or less.
$NTEK
And how, exactly, did you come by this tidbit?
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I can tell you that there is already one very interesting content provider definitely dealing with Ultraflix that seems to not have been publicly announced.
Since NTEK publicly announces all sorts of "partnerships" that don't really exist, then accuses people who believed it and paid money into that belief of being gullible idiots (true enough, I suppose), I find it unbelievably hard to believe that there's an actual genuine content provider on the horizon that's willing to do actual business with them.
Personally, I don't think NTEK would even know, at this point, what an honest business dealing would look, sound, or smell like, but I'm still all ears.
Did they put some sort of teaser in the main Ultraflix menu? A Spiderman link that's sort of greyed out and doesn't really work yet, maybe? Something like that?
I'm not certain about content providers. I can tell you that there is already one very interesting content provider definitely dealing with Ultraflix that seems to not have been publicly announced.
And yes, there has been quite a lot of "pumping" discussion regarding the NP-1 on this board. But I don't let that influence my investment decisions. Once you make it through the filter, and see what I have seen on the NP-1, you see that there is some truth to it, but the truth is always different than what you'd expect.
When you say they have nothing to offer, I am assuming you haven't purchased the NP-1 and have not viewed Ultraflix. I'm not saying it's perfect and that it is the greatest offering of all possible publicly available (not yet) 4k channels etc. assuming those exist which they don't right now..by far, no. But it's a darned good start from the way I see it. My family has already "used" it for our purposes. /wink
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You'd still need a reason for content providers to deal with NTEK at all.
If you may recall, the original reason was supposed to be that NP-1 was the only game in town, and so content providers would be forced to go through them.
Now, they're just going to be another IPTV channel on a smart TV. Smart enough that it has an HEVC decoder built in, but that will be available to all comers for nothing. Anyone, like Hulu, who wants to run 4K content, can. Easily.
NTEK will have no advantage at all.
And no, don't come back and say they have mastering capability. Those machines and shops to turn film into 4K are thick on the ground in Hollywood. They have to be, because more and more cinemas, if not all, are now digital.
That means pretty much any movie you've seen in the last few years is also 4K-ready. If there's a market for it, which has yet to be proven.
But NTEK isn't really in the game at all, because they have absolutely nothing to offer.
I think it is wrong to suggest Nanotech is trying to compete with Sony and Samsung. I don't think that is what is going on at all. In fact, I think Nanotech is hoping Samsung and Sony will eventually let Ultraflix be ported onto new Sony/Samsung TVs (who knows) instead. So I'm not sure what you mean by a competition you suggest may be occurring (i.e. Nanotech begging Sony/Samsung not to produce universally compatible media players). That isn't the case at all I think. And I don't think anyone really cares now about competitive media players. It is the nature of hardware to fall out of use and it only makes you so much money. But an online video service...now that can just give and keep on giving. That's why Ultraflix was and is always the end goal here. And surprisingly, it already has "good" content. It shouldn't but it does lol. We'll see what the next few months brings it.
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I actually agree with you about Sony and Samsung. They will see the light sooner or later, when their sales take a hit from their selfish acts. They are hurting themselves by not letting 4K reach critical mass and don't even realize it yet.
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When you've invested the amount of money I have into Nanotech, $300 for a media player is chump change
Hence, it is far not too expensive And like I said, I have an advantage over others who do not have the NP-1 yet. I can determine from the box, what kind of investment I have made. I can check the internal operation. I don't have to rely on secondhand information like many others are.
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Because it's far too expensive for the purpose that you cite as its primary benefit.
That's in your own words. What you like most about the features of the product are things that are available for far less money elsewhere, and in the case of the Shield, with added features that simply blow NP-1 out of the water, no question, no argument.
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Why get those? Why not use the product of the company I am invested in, so that I may determine if the product is good or not?
As for Sony and Samsung's limited and downright annoyingly self-serving entrances into the market, that'll settle itself in time. Both will produce boxes that work with the other's sets and everyone else's.
I mean, it's not like we haven't seen the evolution of TV technology before, right?
Will NTEK beg Sony and Samsung to never produce a box that works with all sets? Honestly, that's what they'll be left with.
If you could point to a content holder that desperately wants to get their 4k content out there now, all other considerations be damned, so much so that they'll work with some sleazy penny stock run by criminals to do it, then I'll listen.
What studio or other content holder is that desperate to get their 4K content to user's eyeballs?
Why get those? Why not use the product of the company I am invested in, so that I may determine if the product is good or not? I have tested the product. It is a good product. Two birds with one stone. I get to play games. And the product is good.
I can also determine the veracity of any claims made against or for the product, including your own
Another advantage I have is that I can test Ultraflix before its official release (outside of the NP-1) to determine whether or not it is worth it to stay invested in this company. I have determined from my initial viewing of Ultraflix that this is a sound investment with a lot of room for growth.
Since I've gotten Ultraflix v1.2, I have rented 6 movies. Four more freebies -)
Also, Sony and Samsung, want you to buy their 4K TVs. Hence, they make media players specific to their TV. Then deliver content that way claiming that they are concerned about piracy, when really they just want you to buy an expensive 4K TV that almost costs the same to make as an HD tv. Ultraflix is going to be an open platform on multiple TVs, and eventually will have a VOD service, much like Amazon Prime. IN fact, Ultraflix and Amazon Prime already share a few movies
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So why did you spend twice the money?
You could get the same thing in a Mad Katz MOJO for much less money and play the same games.
Even better, buy an nVidia Shield. The Shield Tablet is spendy, because it's the Tegra K1, but the regular Shield is the same Tegra 4 as NP-1, and not only does it play the same games, and not only does it have its own very nice high-def screen, so it's mobile, but it still comes in at a mere $199, well under the price of the obsolete and buggy NP-1.
Why would anyone pay so much money for such a piece of junk as an NP-1?
Does Nanotech Entertainment think we're idiots?
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My favorite aspect about the NP-1 is still the games on google play.
There will never be audited financials.
Their promises to produce such audited financials have always been blatant lies in the past, and are blatant lies now.
They will be blatant lies a year from now, and there will still be people who believe them and say audited financials are right around the corner.
No reputable firm would sign off on the raft of lies that NTEK calls their revenue stream.
