Its clear that Bob only talks to Joe and his crew so I'm sure getting a hold of him is not a problem for some. Other investors are left wondering why they can't have any communications with a public ceo. That is why I have been pushing here for an IR person or group to take over for Bob. I think he is doing fine on the business side but horrible on the investor relations side. And when this stock starts to get the attention of the street, he can't go and hide behind his pumpers to do his bidding. He is either going to have to act like a public ceo or hire someone. Fund managers and institutional investors will not put up with his silent treatments when they want their questions answered.