VRNG Opinions 08/16/2014 19:23:07 $VRNG
Thank you. This isn't as cut and dry as it seems.
This decision is way bigger than many people realize. The effects are huge and far reaching. People are getting fired up. Interesting conversation in comments here
http://patentlyo.com/patent/2014/08/judge-rai...lists.html
Ken Lang (inventor of what Google took from him with no compensation) hang in there. Hopefully, justice will be served.
Yea; If you're saying you lost 20. Sorry, I'm in it bigger than that.I know what you're feeling. Unfortunately I was not aware of this day, what was happening, otherwise I would of jumped too.
I can't decide on Monday what to do. still holding. gl.
If the appeal reverses (en bank or supremes), this stock will explode in price. Looking forward to the shorts helping bring price down to .50 or lower, so I can load up more. It has been fun ride with Vringo over the years. They did not get this far by not doing there homework. With all the twist and the turns, what will happen next. Stay tuned!!!!
I sold at a significant lost. I'm afraid of what Monday may hold for this stock.
Dozd; what are you saying, did you sell?, stopped out?, or what.
In the same boat.
PS, we all new, going into these high risk stocks, what can happen. GL
I'm down about the same and feel similar
That simply won't happen; GLTY too.
Okay. When the share price is trading at $1.10 before noon on Monday then we'll see about that. GLTY
On a brief look at the financial position and potential market prices, yeah,, I saw .26 floating around inside there somewhere.. But,, I am also not so sure the ruling can not be overturned.. At the moment I'm too busy to dig it all up. but sure would be glad if somebody could print it all out nice and clear..
And the short interest at just above 50% of volume is indicating the same sense of insecurity, both bulls and bears in a tight fix.. when that brakes, somebody's going to make some bucks.. no doubt.
Daniel Ravicher tweeted the following:
"$VRNG decision from Court of Appeals overturning jury is shocker, and Chen rightly dissents. An en banc petition surely will be forthcoming."
"It was not the Review Court Judges duty to dig this up and present it, it was Google's Attorneys!!! Representation is everything in a balanced court! G's attorneys weren't doing their job at the district level or else we wouldn't have gotten this far! "
well if you'll look back I perceived that the judge indicates prejudice. . But that was on his ruling, so,, whatever 'trial' was held and retorts by each party was not shown well enough to say whether he was, or simply cited extensive defense for his decision.. and it's tough to remove the personal risk delusions in which ,if you're bull, you feel everything is wrong or right just to suite your personal goals.
The question is really, whether what he cited,, was convincing enough to warrant a disillusion.
moreover it's going to depend whether their attorneys can put together a package to overrule it.
Personally I got the sense that VRNG's patent would be construed as the tool to teach the rule. And think if that's correct then right's have been abridged, but,, could be of lessor importance. patented is a tricky deal to protect, and like this, tough to assign.
That judge obviously created an extensive defense to support his conclusions.. It's not simply the merits of the case, but, he would also know full and well, it would involve millions of investment bucks, on the stock market too.. a hard responsibility which, although not part of his requirement, meritorious enough to 'try' and get it right.
"moreover it's going to depend whether their attorneys can put together a package to overrule it." 'discovery' of the exact material required to do so would be gold at this juncture. .
Misinformation? Its in the 10Q!
OVERSTATED GOODWILL $65,000,000!
LEGAL FEES $12,955,000!
This decision is way bigger than many people realize. The effects are huge and far reaching. People are getting fired up. Interesting conversation in comments here
http://patentlyo.com/patent/2014/08/judge-rai...lists.html
Company ALSO states CASH BURN is HIGH! Why? Because, all the money the are making from settlements is going towards NEW litigation!
Re-read my post - I said 'lawsuit settlement'. ; )
LOL that's not going to happen on Monday or even next week, plain & simple; this will drop at least 10 cents lower.-- "If people realize the huge discount VRNG is now trading at, we might be at $1.50 on Monday."
Financials reported on their latest 10q filing shows $0 for ACCOUNTS REC. And they have never shown any Revenue from Google. What are you talking about?
Thank you. This isn't as cut and dry as it seems.
This decision is way bigger than many people realize. The effects are huge and far reaching. People are getting fired up. Interesting conversation in comments here
http://patentlyo.com/patent/2014/08/judge-rai...lists.html
Ken Lang (inventor of what Google took from him with no compensation) hang in there. Hopefully, justice will be served.
Yea; If you're saying you lost 20. Sorry, I'm in it bigger than that.I know what you're feeling. Unfortunately I was not aware of this day, what was happening, otherwise I would of jumped too.
I can't decide on Monday what to do. still holding. gl.
If the appeal reverses (en bank or supremes), this stock will explode in price. Looking forward to the shorts helping bring price down to .50 or lower, so I can load up more. It has been fun ride with Vringo over the years. They did not get this far by not doing there homework. With all the twist and the turns, what will happen next. Stay tuned!!!!
I sold at a significant lost. I'm afraid of what Monday may hold for this stock.
Dozd; what are you saying, did you sell?, stopped out?, or what.
In the same boat.
PS, we all new, going into these high risk stocks, what can happen. GL
I'm down about the same and feel similar
That simply won't happen; GLTY too.
Okay. When the share price is trading at $1.10 before noon on Monday then we'll see about that. GLTY
On a brief look at the financial position and potential market prices, yeah,, I saw .26 floating around inside there somewhere.. But,, I am also not so sure the ruling can not be overturned.. At the moment I'm too busy to dig it all up. but sure would be glad if somebody could print it all out nice and clear..
And the short interest at just above 50% of volume is indicating the same sense of insecurity, both bulls and bears in a tight fix.. when that brakes, somebody's going to make some bucks.. no doubt.
Daniel Ravicher tweeted the following:
"$VRNG decision from Court of Appeals overturning jury is shocker, and Chen rightly dissents. An en banc petition surely will be forthcoming."
"It was not the Review Court Judges duty to dig this up and present it, it was Google's Attorneys!!! Representation is everything in a balanced court! G's attorneys weren't doing their job at the district level or else we wouldn't have gotten this far! "
well if you'll look back I perceived that the judge indicates prejudice. . But that was on his ruling, so,, whatever 'trial' was held and retorts by each party was not shown well enough to say whether he was, or simply cited extensive defense for his decision.. and it's tough to remove the personal risk delusions in which ,if you're bull, you feel everything is wrong or right just to suite your personal goals.
The question is really, whether what he cited,, was convincing enough to warrant a disillusion.
moreover it's going to depend whether their attorneys can put together a package to overrule it.
Personally I got the sense that VRNG's patent would be construed as the tool to teach the rule. And think if that's correct then right's have been abridged, but,, could be of lessor importance. patented is a tricky deal to protect, and like this, tough to assign.
That judge obviously created an extensive defense to support his conclusions.. It's not simply the merits of the case, but, he would also know full and well, it would involve millions of investment bucks, on the stock market too.. a hard responsibility which, although not part of his requirement, meritorious enough to 'try' and get it right.
"moreover it's going to depend whether their attorneys can put together a package to overrule it." 'discovery' of the exact material required to do so would be gold at this juncture. .
Misinformation? Its in the 10Q!
OVERSTATED GOODWILL $65,000,000!
LEGAL FEES $12,955,000!
This decision is way bigger than many people realize. The effects are huge and far reaching. People are getting fired up. Interesting conversation in comments here
http://patentlyo.com/patent/2014/08/judge-rai...lists.html
Company ALSO states CASH BURN is HIGH! Why? Because, all the money the are making from settlements is going towards NEW litigation!
Re-read my post - I said 'lawsuit settlement'. ; )
LOL that's not going to happen on Monday or even next week, plain & simple; this will drop at least 10 cents lower.-- "If people realize the huge discount VRNG is now trading at, we might be at $1.50 on Monday."
Financials reported on their latest 10q filing shows $0 for ACCOUNTS REC. And they have never shown any Revenue from Google. What are you talking about?
