i wish we had that kind of control, Angel has his plans, and agenda, no one will change that, and ceo's only really care about pps, when they are selling, agree the 500k order was not so big, but i like how it fired right when the market open, and pretty sure the 5's won the day, yes no volume, but the way i think pps works is set by mm, meaning most of my stocks went up with out news, how does that happen, then the news hits, so i believe the huge volume you see taking us to 30 plus, was the mm, all the red lines after that is him selling shares and saving up for his next big buy up, then he will do a major dump and then you will see a bounce, and then you will see him sell down to the next big buy, so when we go up, it will when we least expect it, and it will be the mm, notice how thin it gets as you climb, he only has to break a couple of walls and then we are back to the 30's, just my guess on how the pennys work,