You can say that, but the facts are that Matt Brown or anyone of his ilk would have been vehemently opposed by negative posters, and I think that several of them contributed to his downfall. Both are making money in different ways, according to your theory. Comparing the two, a pump and dump is a lot easier, isn't it? We have a documented case on ihub where someone made money pumping. Do we have a case where there is documented evidence of someone bashing? More to the point, bashing JBI?