I have no idea about talking points. I am sure it

I have no idea about talking points. I am sure it has some special meaning in your world. My point was really quite simple and I have seen it too many times to count. Those without public company experience when faced with bad news react many times by acting and behaving in a way that says "Lets try to keep this under wraps and maybe it will go away." An experienced and competent public executive acts and behaves in a way that says "We need to let the investing public know ASAP." When in doubt 8K. And again my comment about hot water was they could not for sure would. It seems everybody here regardless of side takes a hard core position.