Investors Hangout Stock Message Boards Logo
  • Mailbox
  • Favorites
  • Boards
    • The Hangout
    • NASDAQ
    • NYSE
    • OTC Markets
    • All Boards
  • Whats Hot!
    • Recent Activity
    • Most Viewed Boards
    • Most Viewed Posts
    • Most Posted
    • Most Followed
    • Top Boards
    • Newest Boards
    • Newest Members
  • Blog
    • Recent Blog Posts
    • Recently Updated
    • News
    • Stocks
    • Crypto
    • Investing
    • Business
    • Markets
    • Economy
    • Real Estate
    • Personal Finance
  • Market Movers
  • Interactive Charts
  • Login - Join Now FREE!
  1. Home ›
  2. Stock Message Boards ›
  3. Stock Boards ›
  4. Hollund Industrial Marine Inc. (HIMR) Message Board

Before the Tiger-Lynk Technology was aligned with

Message Board Public Reply | Private Reply | Keep | Replies (0)                   Post New Msg
Edit Msg () | Previous | Next


Post# of 17862
Posted On: 10/16/2013 6:03:34 PM
Posted By: dano9008
Re: rdkl18 #6936
Before the Tiger-Lynk Technology was aligned with HIMR, it was aligned with Aquatic Cellulose International Corp. (AQCI), but back then it was called the Aquatic Timber Harvester (ATH). I searched some articles about them, but not enough to exactly know what went wrong there (though the dangerous traits of poor focus and a tendency to over-reach seemed apparent). They were harvesting trees in Brazil using the technology but had to abandon the effort due to inadequate funding (maybe they failed to satisfy the terms of the acquisition debt). Frank Van Vranken (who is the president and the primary, if not sole, owner of North Cal) was the Head of International Operations for AQCI, and Michael Lacy (who is vice president, marketing at North Cal) was the head of investor relations at AQCI. Michael Lacy and Frank Van Vranken were president and vice-president respectively of HIMR as it went through its review of the business model and structuring of early 2012. They hired Sheldon Romain and Peter Meier, the current management and board. When Lacy and Van Vranken stepped down from management, the PR announcement did not say they stepped down from the board. In a subsequent quarterly disclosure, it noted that the office in Ukiah CA was provided by a member of the board. And so, the impression is left that Lacy and/or Van Vranken remained on the board. However, the official disclosure for Washington state only includes Peter Meier and Sheldon Romain as boardmembers. So, clearly the North Cal guys were involved with the re-purposing of the company and are currently involved as advisers and they may continue to be involved as "unofficial" directors.

You probably know the above, I include it for a reader that doesn't and to provide context.

I think the failure with AQCI gave them a very healthy fear of the execution risk here and they have structured their engagement with HIMR so they don't have any such risk. Their time is compensated through deferred compensation which can be covered through dilution if need be. There isn't much of an opportunity loss for them if it doesn't work out as they undoubtedly view this as the best available alternative. The execution risk is all on us and there is a lot of it. I wouldn't call this a fast growing industry as concessions aren't awarded that often, but a concession can have a rapidly growing effect on revenue (especially with an efficient logger) and that could be hugely impactful for us. From a bearish perspective, the long affiliation of certain individuals can and should be viewed as suspicious. From a bullish perspective, lessons learned from past failures can inform new attempts. It might be annoying that North Cal is avoiding execution risk (North Cal will get 37% of net profits), but it is in part why there is an opportunity for us at all - all the competitors are private companies.

Although the interests of shareholders, Tiger-Lynk owners, and North Cal are well aligned, they will never be perfectly aligned for Tiger-Lynk owners benefit from dilution when they are the ones converting and North Cal is uninjured by dilution. We all benefit from a strong HIMR that wins concessions and earns revenue and profit, but for us how it is funded is crucial. For us, the more self-funding the better. Fear of execution risk improves the alignment of interests, I think, by countering a desire to over-reach.

Or so it seems to me.


(0)
(0)




Hollund Industrial Marine Inc. (HIMR) Stock Research Links


  1.  
  2.  


  3.  
  4.  
  5.  






Investors Hangout

Home

Mailbox

Message Boards

Favorites

Whats Hot

Blog

Settings

Privacy Policy

Terms and Conditions

Disclaimer

Contact Us

Whats Hot

Recent Activity

Most Viewed Boards

Most Viewed Posts

Most Posted Boards

Most Followed

Top Boards

Newest Boards

Newest Members

Investors Hangout Message Boards

Welcome To Investors Hangout

Stock Message Boards

American Stock Exchange (AMEX)

NASDAQ Stock Exchange (NASDAQ)

New York Stock Exchange (NYSE)

Penny Stocks - (OTC)

User Boards

The Hangout

Private

Global Markets

Australian Securities Exchange (ASX)

Euronext Amsterdam (AMS)

Euronext Brussels (BRU)

Euronext Lisbon (LIS)

Euronext Paris (PAR)

Foreign Exchange (FOREX)

Hong Kong Stock Exchange (HKEX)

London Stock Exchange (LSE)

Milan Stock Exchange (MLSE)

New Zealand Exchange (NZX)

Singapore Stock Exchange (SGX)

Toronto Stock Exchange (TSX)

Contact Investors Hangout

Email Us

Follow Investors Hangout

Twitter

YouTube

Facebook

Market Data powered by QuoteMedia. Copyright © 2025. Data delayed 15 minutes unless otherwise indicated (view delay times for all exchanges).
Analyst Ratings & Earnings by Zacks. RT=Real-Time, EOD=End of Day, PD=Previous Day. Terms of Use.

© 2025 Copyright Investors Hangout, LLC All Rights Reserved.

Privacy Policy |Do Not Sell My Information | Terms & Conditions | Disclaimer | Help | Contact Us