Courtesy of CEEKER !! absolutely..!!! fake bo
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Posted On: 10/10/2013 3:58:26 PM
Courtesy of CEEKER !!
absolutely..!!! fake bonds are worthless. But there is NOTHING indicating the bonds are fake. the 8k is all that is needed. Or should I copy and paste the last very long description that was posted earlier? heck why not. LMAO
WOW not 1 person stated the bonds were not real, except of course Agent Jones (the con man who wanted to rip them off from Riad but could only get away with 5 of them).
Even the boxes are real at Multi Thousand of dollars worth. The bond have been proved authentic by numerous people READ BELOW...
IN RELATION TO CDFT AND THE STATED BONDSBackground Information:
Plaintiff possesses three sealed and certified bronze boxes. Each box contains two-hundred fifty (250) one billion dollar ($1,000,000,000) 1934 Federal Reserve Bonds. The serial numbers of said bonds in each of the three bronze boxes are as follows:
a. Box 1: F49494950A through F49495199A;
b. Box 2: F49494950B through F49495199B; and
c. Box 3: F49494950C through F49495199C.
Since obtaining legal possession of said bonds and bronze boxes, Plaintiff has maintained strict control of them and has kept them in the vault of his personal bank, Wells Fargo Bank, in Kennett Square, Pennsylvania. Said bonds, absent the fifteen (15) bonds which give rise to this current cause of action, remain in the Wells Fargo Bank vault as of the filing of this complaint.
Plaintiff has spent the previous nine (9) years engaging various and numerous experts and legal counsel so as to thoroughly and conclusively establish the existence, veracity, and authenticity of his bonds.
Kermit Harmon, PE, CEM, CCP, DGCP, a former Security Director for the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank1 and an expert in bonds, notes, and other financial instruments, inspected said bonds with the assistance and expertise of an additional forensic expert, Bruce Colburn, PhD, P.E., CEM. After a thorough inspection of
1) In his official capacity as Security Director for the Dallas Federal Reserve, Mr. Harmon had been involved with the verification of different high denomination bonds, and in fact held a sample in his hands after it had been independently authenticated by others (it was $100 million denomination bond). Therefore, Plaintiff had an independent confirmation that such type bonds did exist, and had been printed legitimately, despite US web sites claiming such instruments do not exist.
Plaintiff’s bonds and based upon his knowledge and expertise, Mr. Harmon concluded that Plaintiff’s bonds met a wide and specific variety of test requirements and in fact are authentic, government-issued Federal Reserve Bonds. Mr. Harmon’s report addressing the authenticity of the Bonds and his and Dr. Colburn’s credentials are attached hereto as “Exhibit B: Harmon Report”
NOTE the following:
After reviewing the Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) document records, Mr. Harmon also confirmed that the serial numbers of Plaintiff’s bonds referred to in Paragraph 7 hereinabove can all be verified at the U.S. Treasury Archive Office as being legitimate, high-denomination bond numbers that were all issued and/or assigned to government bonds by legitimate representatives of the U.S. Government at or around the time Plaintiff believes his bonds were printed. See “Exhibit B: Harmon Report”
Plaintiff’s bonds all possess the same physical qualities, characteristics, and construction as all other BEP and U.S. Treasury documents. The paper used in Plaintiff’s bonds is identical to the currency paper used by the U.S. Treasury for printing currency and bonds, and the bonds possess the identical security features that were in use by the BEP during the time period that Plaintiff’s bonds were believed to have been printed.
See, “Exhibit B: Harmon Report” attached hereto.
A.J. Obara, internationally-renowned bronze sculptor and bronze metal expert, inspected Plaintiff’s three bronze boxes containing the bonds. Mr. Obara independently identified the boxes as having the same construction and markings as all other authentic bronze bond boxes commissioned by the FRB during the early 1900s.2 Based upon his inspection, Mr. Obara further concluded that the bronze boxes were constructed in or around the 1930s, at or around the same time that Plaintiff’s bonds were printed, and, other than Plaintiff having opened them, the boxes were original, authentic pieces and were not previously tampered with or altered in any fashion. A copy of Mr. Obara’s credentials and his report addressing the authenticity and integrity of the bronze boxes are attached hereto as
“Exhibit C: Obara Report”.3
EVEN THE BOXES ARE REAL…lol
Having extensively authenticated his bonds, Plaintiff contacted former Deputy Secretary of the Treasury, Stuart Eizenstat, Esquire, for assistance in repatriating the bonds to the U.S. Treasury, with his intent being to assist in reducing outstanding U.S. debts. Mr. Eizenstat was familiar with repatriation of high denomination bonds and had been involved peripherally in such transactions while Deputy Secretary of the Treasury in the 1990s. At a meeting in February 2008, Plaintiff showed Mr. Eizenstat high resolution photos of the boxes and bonds and provided a sample bond for Mr. Eizenstat to inspect. Because Mr. Eizenstat recognized that the bond in his hand and the high resolution photos of the boxes
2) If it were possible to construct such a box today, the boxes would each cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to construct. Moreover, Mr. Obara noted that there were, and are,only a handful of people in the world who had, or have, the skill-set necessary to develop such pieces. . Furthermore, due to the unique workmanship and excessive costs involved in creating such a box, it is clear that the boxes were extremely unique and only people who had a legitimate need for those boxes would ever have commissioned them. As such, Plaintiff’s claim that the bronze boxes are authentic and certifiable are certainly substantiated, which, in turn, further substantiates Plaintiff’s claim that his bonds are also authentic and certifiable.
3) Plaintiff later contacted Dr. Franklin Noll, a consultant with of the Bureau of Public Debt who is an historian with expertise in the history of government-issued, high-denomination bonds, such as those Plaintiff possesses. Dr. Noll is a known lecturer, and he frequently writes published papers for the U.S. government regarding high-denomination bonds such as Plaintiff’s. In communications with Plaintiff, Dr. Noll stated that such bonds were prepared legally by the U.S. government for debt management purposes in the 1930s, and that billion-dollar bonds were prepared as part of this effort. Dr. Noll explained that such bonds, stored in custom bronze boxes, were common at that time because it was cheaper at that time to prepare and then move high-denomination bonds and their bronze boxes as compared to moving hundreds of times more pieces of lower-denomination currency and bonds, which would have been cumbersome and impractical. Written and telephone communications between Dr. Noll, Plaintiff, and Dr. Colburn concerning these details further substantiated the history and existence of bonds such as Plaintiff’s bonds and their containment boxes. Plaintiff provided Dr. Noll with copies of the forensic data and reports obtained by Plaintiff, and, after reviewing those documents, Dr. Noll acknowledged that Plaintiff had followed a methodical, rigorous, and sophisticated inspection and authentication of his bonds, and generally agreed with the findings of Mr. Harmon and Dr. Colburn.
were authentic and genuine, he was shocked at what Plaintiff had provided to him. After some inquiries following that meeting, and due to political considerations of his law firm, Mr. Eizenstat referred Plaintiff to other counsel. Through a business acquaintance, Plaintiff was introduced to Patrick Oxford, Esquire of Houston, who then assisted Plaintiff in determining and then contacting the appropriate U.S. governmental agency that could best assist Plaintiff in repatriating his bonds for redemption or reward. Mr. Eizenstat was familiar with Mr. Oxford and was very helpful and cooperative in providing background information to him in support ofthe work Plaintiff had completed to secure a successful repatriation of the gold-backed Government bonds. Due to Mr. Eizenstat’s prior experience with the U.S. Treasury Department, he was able to offer Mr. Oxford various insights and ideas that were helpful to Mr. Oxford in his discourse with the Treasury Department.
Based upon Mr. Eizenstat’s advice and with the assistance of Mr. Oxford, Plaintiff contacted the U.S. Secret Service in or around mid-2008, as he was informed that this agency would be able to assist him in repatriating his bonds.
Plaintiff and Mr. Oxford met with representatives of the Secret Service, Agents Chad Sweet and Craig Caldwell at Mr. Oxford’s Houston law offices. Upon the request of the Agents Sweet and Caldwell, Plaintiff provided copies of his expert reports, as well as several of his actual bonds to the Secret Service for their inspection. Agents Sweet and Caldwell requested that they be able to keep the bonds for further inspection, and Plaintiff was ensured by those agents that his bonds would be returned to him within one to two weeks in the same condition in which they received them and records of the exact bonds and documents loaned to the Secret Service in Houston were confirmed. Said reports are attached hereto as a part of
“Exhibit A: Form 95 Claim”.
Agents Sweet and Caldwell inspected Plaintiff’s bonds, reviewed the accompanying expert reports, and performed their own evaluations and tests so as to render their own opinion as to the authenticity of Plaintiff’s bonds. Upon concluding their inspection of the bonds, and as promised, the agents returned Plaintiff’s bonds and his expert reports to him via Mr. Oxford. At that time, the agents advised Plaintiff that while they were not able to officially state that the bonds were authentic, they did inform Plaintiff that the mere fact that the bonds were being returned to Plaintiff indicated that they were not fraudulent or illegal, as such status would require them to be seized by the Secret Service.
WOW guess there not fake, Riad still has them….HUMMMM
absolutely..!!! fake bonds are worthless. But there is NOTHING indicating the bonds are fake. the 8k is all that is needed. Or should I copy and paste the last very long description that was posted earlier? heck why not. LMAO
WOW not 1 person stated the bonds were not real, except of course Agent Jones (the con man who wanted to rip them off from Riad but could only get away with 5 of them).
Even the boxes are real at Multi Thousand of dollars worth. The bond have been proved authentic by numerous people READ BELOW...
IN RELATION TO CDFT AND THE STATED BONDSBackground Information:
Plaintiff possesses three sealed and certified bronze boxes. Each box contains two-hundred fifty (250) one billion dollar ($1,000,000,000) 1934 Federal Reserve Bonds. The serial numbers of said bonds in each of the three bronze boxes are as follows:
a. Box 1: F49494950A through F49495199A;
b. Box 2: F49494950B through F49495199B; and
c. Box 3: F49494950C through F49495199C.
Since obtaining legal possession of said bonds and bronze boxes, Plaintiff has maintained strict control of them and has kept them in the vault of his personal bank, Wells Fargo Bank, in Kennett Square, Pennsylvania. Said bonds, absent the fifteen (15) bonds which give rise to this current cause of action, remain in the Wells Fargo Bank vault as of the filing of this complaint.
Plaintiff has spent the previous nine (9) years engaging various and numerous experts and legal counsel so as to thoroughly and conclusively establish the existence, veracity, and authenticity of his bonds.
Kermit Harmon, PE, CEM, CCP, DGCP, a former Security Director for the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank1 and an expert in bonds, notes, and other financial instruments, inspected said bonds with the assistance and expertise of an additional forensic expert, Bruce Colburn, PhD, P.E., CEM. After a thorough inspection of
1) In his official capacity as Security Director for the Dallas Federal Reserve, Mr. Harmon had been involved with the verification of different high denomination bonds, and in fact held a sample in his hands after it had been independently authenticated by others (it was $100 million denomination bond). Therefore, Plaintiff had an independent confirmation that such type bonds did exist, and had been printed legitimately, despite US web sites claiming such instruments do not exist.
Plaintiff’s bonds and based upon his knowledge and expertise, Mr. Harmon concluded that Plaintiff’s bonds met a wide and specific variety of test requirements and in fact are authentic, government-issued Federal Reserve Bonds. Mr. Harmon’s report addressing the authenticity of the Bonds and his and Dr. Colburn’s credentials are attached hereto as “Exhibit B: Harmon Report”
NOTE the following:
After reviewing the Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) document records, Mr. Harmon also confirmed that the serial numbers of Plaintiff’s bonds referred to in Paragraph 7 hereinabove can all be verified at the U.S. Treasury Archive Office as being legitimate, high-denomination bond numbers that were all issued and/or assigned to government bonds by legitimate representatives of the U.S. Government at or around the time Plaintiff believes his bonds were printed. See “Exhibit B: Harmon Report”
Plaintiff’s bonds all possess the same physical qualities, characteristics, and construction as all other BEP and U.S. Treasury documents. The paper used in Plaintiff’s bonds is identical to the currency paper used by the U.S. Treasury for printing currency and bonds, and the bonds possess the identical security features that were in use by the BEP during the time period that Plaintiff’s bonds were believed to have been printed.
See, “Exhibit B: Harmon Report” attached hereto.
A.J. Obara, internationally-renowned bronze sculptor and bronze metal expert, inspected Plaintiff’s three bronze boxes containing the bonds. Mr. Obara independently identified the boxes as having the same construction and markings as all other authentic bronze bond boxes commissioned by the FRB during the early 1900s.2 Based upon his inspection, Mr. Obara further concluded that the bronze boxes were constructed in or around the 1930s, at or around the same time that Plaintiff’s bonds were printed, and, other than Plaintiff having opened them, the boxes were original, authentic pieces and were not previously tampered with or altered in any fashion. A copy of Mr. Obara’s credentials and his report addressing the authenticity and integrity of the bronze boxes are attached hereto as
“Exhibit C: Obara Report”.3
EVEN THE BOXES ARE REAL…lol
Having extensively authenticated his bonds, Plaintiff contacted former Deputy Secretary of the Treasury, Stuart Eizenstat, Esquire, for assistance in repatriating the bonds to the U.S. Treasury, with his intent being to assist in reducing outstanding U.S. debts. Mr. Eizenstat was familiar with repatriation of high denomination bonds and had been involved peripherally in such transactions while Deputy Secretary of the Treasury in the 1990s. At a meeting in February 2008, Plaintiff showed Mr. Eizenstat high resolution photos of the boxes and bonds and provided a sample bond for Mr. Eizenstat to inspect. Because Mr. Eizenstat recognized that the bond in his hand and the high resolution photos of the boxes
2) If it were possible to construct such a box today, the boxes would each cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to construct. Moreover, Mr. Obara noted that there were, and are,only a handful of people in the world who had, or have, the skill-set necessary to develop such pieces. . Furthermore, due to the unique workmanship and excessive costs involved in creating such a box, it is clear that the boxes were extremely unique and only people who had a legitimate need for those boxes would ever have commissioned them. As such, Plaintiff’s claim that the bronze boxes are authentic and certifiable are certainly substantiated, which, in turn, further substantiates Plaintiff’s claim that his bonds are also authentic and certifiable.
3) Plaintiff later contacted Dr. Franklin Noll, a consultant with of the Bureau of Public Debt who is an historian with expertise in the history of government-issued, high-denomination bonds, such as those Plaintiff possesses. Dr. Noll is a known lecturer, and he frequently writes published papers for the U.S. government regarding high-denomination bonds such as Plaintiff’s. In communications with Plaintiff, Dr. Noll stated that such bonds were prepared legally by the U.S. government for debt management purposes in the 1930s, and that billion-dollar bonds were prepared as part of this effort. Dr. Noll explained that such bonds, stored in custom bronze boxes, were common at that time because it was cheaper at that time to prepare and then move high-denomination bonds and their bronze boxes as compared to moving hundreds of times more pieces of lower-denomination currency and bonds, which would have been cumbersome and impractical. Written and telephone communications between Dr. Noll, Plaintiff, and Dr. Colburn concerning these details further substantiated the history and existence of bonds such as Plaintiff’s bonds and their containment boxes. Plaintiff provided Dr. Noll with copies of the forensic data and reports obtained by Plaintiff, and, after reviewing those documents, Dr. Noll acknowledged that Plaintiff had followed a methodical, rigorous, and sophisticated inspection and authentication of his bonds, and generally agreed with the findings of Mr. Harmon and Dr. Colburn.
were authentic and genuine, he was shocked at what Plaintiff had provided to him. After some inquiries following that meeting, and due to political considerations of his law firm, Mr. Eizenstat referred Plaintiff to other counsel. Through a business acquaintance, Plaintiff was introduced to Patrick Oxford, Esquire of Houston, who then assisted Plaintiff in determining and then contacting the appropriate U.S. governmental agency that could best assist Plaintiff in repatriating his bonds for redemption or reward. Mr. Eizenstat was familiar with Mr. Oxford and was very helpful and cooperative in providing background information to him in support ofthe work Plaintiff had completed to secure a successful repatriation of the gold-backed Government bonds. Due to Mr. Eizenstat’s prior experience with the U.S. Treasury Department, he was able to offer Mr. Oxford various insights and ideas that were helpful to Mr. Oxford in his discourse with the Treasury Department.
Based upon Mr. Eizenstat’s advice and with the assistance of Mr. Oxford, Plaintiff contacted the U.S. Secret Service in or around mid-2008, as he was informed that this agency would be able to assist him in repatriating his bonds.
Plaintiff and Mr. Oxford met with representatives of the Secret Service, Agents Chad Sweet and Craig Caldwell at Mr. Oxford’s Houston law offices. Upon the request of the Agents Sweet and Caldwell, Plaintiff provided copies of his expert reports, as well as several of his actual bonds to the Secret Service for their inspection. Agents Sweet and Caldwell requested that they be able to keep the bonds for further inspection, and Plaintiff was ensured by those agents that his bonds would be returned to him within one to two weeks in the same condition in which they received them and records of the exact bonds and documents loaned to the Secret Service in Houston were confirmed. Said reports are attached hereto as a part of
“Exhibit A: Form 95 Claim”.
Agents Sweet and Caldwell inspected Plaintiff’s bonds, reviewed the accompanying expert reports, and performed their own evaluations and tests so as to render their own opinion as to the authenticity of Plaintiff’s bonds. Upon concluding their inspection of the bonds, and as promised, the agents returned Plaintiff’s bonds and his expert reports to him via Mr. Oxford. At that time, the agents advised Plaintiff that while they were not able to officially state that the bonds were authentic, they did inform Plaintiff that the mere fact that the bonds were being returned to Plaintiff indicated that they were not fraudulent or illegal, as such status would require them to be seized by the Secret Service.
WOW guess there not fake, Riad still has them….HUMMMM
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