Phil, I have seen them move FOYJ recently from no bid to 0.0008 but of course back to 0.0001. But the point is BCAP has way too many resident bashers hence I believe that is one of the reason why it is difficult to move it. I mean BCAP has more to its business than many other penny stock scams. Well, I hope in time, we will move and move big. Cheers.