OK guys lets think about this for a minute.  A week ago we were talking about Alpine looking for 100 million shares remember?  Since then maybe 30 - 50 million has been spent bid whacking?  Correct me on the number.  Also 0001 posted that he thought the bashers wanted to bring this down to .005.  So could we say that they have maybe spent half their amno to get the pps down to .009 and maybe have enough to bring this down to .005 if no PR comes out.  Seems SKTO gave these bashers a gift.  So do you think the bid whackers can get this down any further?