no need be sorry lumburg ...i have let some fly in the past some spitfull and somwhat off topic ...and like kgem i do not condone constant repeated bashing and eventually stop reading the post. however william liebermans past and present preformance makes this investor feel hes been played like a dime store fiddle ....on the other end that spectrum ones got to consider the william/mmte can do no wrong club that are not questioning/venting the way mmte has been run by ceo lieberman raises eyebrows imo....so all in all mike youre are not alone right now its a marlboro and beer and frustration