integracer, Oh, I completely agree and felt no attack whatsoever. Know you better than that, but you are free to disagree with me anytime. I understand the .00000001 deal, just imagine if he knew this stock was going to.02 what he would make! So either he was tired of waiting or has no confidence it will ever get anywhere near that price. Some may think the longer we hold the better it will get. I hold the opposite view. The longer it takes to get any worth while news, the less confident I feel they have done anything to report. No takers for financing or JV for concessions. I am searching other stocks all weekend. One more week!!!