Are we all losing faith in these guys? I hope not. Preferred are still high as hell, nothing has really changed. Stock just corrected to really where it should be. It will be ok. I just hope everyone took some profits before the mini crash the other day. I actually bought more when it went so far down yesterday. I do think a lot of people are scared right now. Big Jim C told everyone to sell, so a lot of people did!  He will not give either stock any real attention until it is uplisted. No matter what stock it is, if it is listed as OTC, he wont publicly touch it. But, you cant tell me he doesnt own any for his charitable trust.