Junebug, in my opinion, it all comes down to future value.  Should North Cal buy out all of Hollund, or even a part of it, they would do so because they expect the value to be much higher in the not too distant future.  That future value is what I am banking on.  The faster HIMR can get up and running, and the higher the volume of wood they can recover, the faster Hollund's revenues will grow and our share price will grow right along with it.