I dont disagree with this...  this is how i am starting to feel.  Neither one of these guys really gives a crap about any of us.   I wish it was more of a partnership but yeah, it doesn't feel much like one these days.   That said, i am still holding and i believe in the vision, i think we can overcome and i wont be one of these people flipping major holdings and screwing over people for personal gain.  Nothing wrong with personal gain, but dont call yourself long if u are NOT.