And, sometimes we forget that our "opinions"  do have an effect on others.  I know of at least one of  us who has left after he read all of the posts in the last week.  And after all of our "opinions" have been shared, we know nothing more.  Why do we let others wind us up?  If someone really knows something and can back it up, post on.  But if all you have is somebody told me, a really good source, but I can't tell you who it is or provide a source, then that is no different than the joke that is the news media in this country that is constantly doing the same thing. Pitiful.  This may be my last post here.  I don't see any value in this board anymore.  I am not referring to my investment in HLNT.  I am more convinced than I ever have been that it is a solid investment.  This board, not so much.  My best to all,  Jim