Vettehemi,  I wasn't aiming frustration at you but just stressing the point of the manipulation and reasons for it.  If you were to base past performance on future performance;  what will TNC's outcome be?  That is exactly what the MM's are banking on!  Cripes did TNC show up today?  Will they start drilling tomorrow or will the MM's drop the PPS another point or two?  You know I'm in it for the long long haul but the lower we go;  then the higher the climb.  On the other hand we might skyrocket from .0075 back to .13 with the right news if "the market believes the news".