Kgem,sorry,my bad. No deletion. However, I have decided just to not make any posts on I-dud. I had planned to call all of them bashers and liars and frauds, but decided that would not be the Christian thing to do. Just because they are jerks doesn't mean I have to be a jerk also. My advice toyou who post there would be don't even attempt a debate with them-just post any new info you may have for the honest traders. But do as you please-this is still a free country-at least for now.