Kgem, I agree 100%. IF our news is not what we yet expect, I see no need in battling I-dud with more information or positive events. It will do no good. I don't think the big money, serious-minded investor puts very much confidence there anymore, now that there are a few boards like this one around. I know integracer has fought the good fight as you have also, while I get PO'd and banned. They will believe nothing-all they want is cheaper shares. But maybe our news will be great and those days will be behind us.