Hawks...I see that about Vance too but still if my Trump-o is re-elected again and does well then it will be a no brain-er that Vance after 4 years with Trump will set sail for even more positive goals however like any President if they don't have both houses than the infighting increases to boiling points and nothing hardly can get done in the first 2 years in office. This is why I believe 2 - 6 year terms for the president with possibly a third term depending.The damn dictators of other countries are in office for massive years and working on consistent plans whereas the USA President only has 4 years but generally spends at least 2 of the 4 years fight our own parties to try and get chit done and I'm talking when either side is in office.

All in all we gotta hope whatever decisions are made the USA can gain enough ground to stand tall again and grow back and move forward. So be it Kamala or my Trump-o we need to get chit done and stop badmouthing each other as it serves only the foreign entities.

Anyone that can't see that the SB needed to be locked down isn't a positive force within the USA and of course it was easy to see and both Presidents were NOT clueless about this.