Oh yeah i know,but he did not say who did he was very careful so im trying to catch them off guard with this facebook post,maybe some rookie might answer my question with consulting anyone about it first.North Cal has now open the door for this question to be asked they should have not mentioned it at all but now people want to know i you did not invent well who did? its a win win for us because if they do not respond then we know its hollund for sure & if they do then they will have to mention hollund.But i also sent hemp inc the same question since he was so intent on pumping it he might just spill his guts in the email either way someone is going to answer my question an admit to tigerlynk or i will call every number and post to every email and facebook page until they do.