Yes I understand and who knows who did or didn't get someone pregnant. As for business deals I do know of 1 builder in 2004--06 that used the Trump name and my friend lost $600k as that was the bottom of the barrel minimum that was accepted an individual Joe. I can't recall but believe a NDA was also attached to those deals. Scam or not we all take chances did Trump know or not as people do use people and Trump-o does too. Plain old business these days. What happen to the 1950/60's where honor was honor without all the BS attached.