Even Blind squirrels eventually finds nuts. Most of the bashtards were individuals who had been burned by Joe C. in QASP. Most of them came over from that board to destroy FTCH prematurely. Unfortunately they ended up being correct, not by education , but IMO, just out of spite/revenge. I still have no use for them or any respect for bashtards. Having said this,trash is trash when it comes to bashtards ;however, I now can safely say "I would not ever again invest one red cent in any venture run and or associated with Frank or the Can- louse family." At this point in time, it would take a miracle to get any worse. But hey! these crooks still have enough stock left to dump on unwary gamblers for a short while.