And again, to be fair, some could say that Univec is "just a start up company that has been delayed for years", it's the same sentiment. Why is the DE mutually exclusive from the Nasdaq? Could one not come before the other? Can you list on multiple exchanges? Can DE help us get there? I do not know. All I'm saying is, don't be so quick to turn a blind eye to something Doc hinted to us years ago(Dream Exchange), for another thing that doc hinted to us years ago(Nasdaq)